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Old 07-08-2019, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) argued Monday that President Trump's push to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census is an effort to "make America white again" in an adaptation of his campaign slogan.

Huh? What is this loon talking about?
Haha..Commissar Pelousy will soon get ALOT less federal funds since very few actual citizens live in her district.
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Old 07-08-2019, 09:17 PM
 
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Census already asks your race.

Now asking citizenship status is somehow a plot to make america white?

Lol...an empty "those guys are racist" sound bite.
It still works... that's why she puts it out there.
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Old 07-08-2019, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Both things can be true. Democrats do play the race card too much. But it's also true that part of the Republican strategy is to galvanize support by courting racists.

The regular posters here don't have the first clue what the Supreme Court said in its recent decision, or what the legal arguments are both for and against the citizenship question. All that matters is that dirty Latin American rapists are stealing jobs and welfare benefits, and the only way to end all the rape and theft is to make it harder for them to go vote for Democrats. It really isn't any more sophisticated than that.

The people who claim it has nothing to do with race are the same people who provide unsourced anecdotes about welfare queens, "gang culture" in minority communities, and immigrants destroying communities.
one has to assume that "racists" are growing, without any efforts of one party or the other. If 10% of voters are racist, then clearly by your claim they are voting Republican. And as maniacal as they are - they're motivate to vote every single race, and to vote based upon their racist beliefs.

So, unless the # of racists are growing TREMENDOUSLY, then the same % of people, and the same # of voters, vote purely based upon racist lines.

I don't think the math works for you, but please feel free to try. It goes well with your own unsophisticated assumptions and conclusions.

From USAToday.com

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The number of hate groups active in the USA rose to its highest level in two decades last year, according to an annual survey released Wednesday by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

The count of active groups climbed to 1,020, up from 784 four years ago, and was propelled by a rise in extremism, the center said. The annual tally is controversial. It gives the same hate label to some conservative church or political groups such as Catholic Family Ministries (listed as a "general hate group") or Conservative Republicans of Texas (branded anti-gay) as it does to outfits such as the Ku Klux Klan or American Nazi Party.
Let's say all these supposed hate groups actually exist. And let's assume they average 1,000 member apiece - even though both of us are preposterously high.

That means there are 1MM virulent racists in the US. And there are still 11MM++ illegal immigrants from a wide variety of countries here.
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Old 07-08-2019, 09:37 PM
 
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Huh? What is this loon talking about?
What she is talking about is that many on the left do not like whites today (even some that are white themselves). It is all about identity politics with the left these days.
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Old 07-08-2019, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The Constitution mandates that everyone be counted, regardless of their legal status.
and yet the citizenship question was in the census for 100 years.....until obozo had it taken off in 2010


this question was for all

are you a citizen?
are you a greencard emigrant?
what year did you emirate?
year and ship arrival?
country of origin?

plus occupation


1920 census:
https://www.census.gov/history/pdf/1...stionnaire.pdf

1930 census:
https://www.census.gov/history/pdf/1...stionnaire.pdf

1940 census:
https://www.census.gov/history/pdf/1...stionnaire.pdf
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1990 Census:
https://www.census.gov/history/pdf/1...stionnaire.pdf



every one had citizenship as a question



helps give an HONEST accounting of personnel within each local/county/state

and, it certainly has been useful for genealogy purposes..... why are liberals against honesty
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Old 07-08-2019, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Of course they must be counted. According to the Constitution - remember that one? - representation is determined by the number of persons. Yes, really.

Article One, Section 2, Clause 3. Google it.
correct it counts ALL persons....citizens, greencard/visa holding emigrants (not YET citizens)

technically it cant count illegals since they are not technically here
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Old 07-08-2019, 09:56 PM
 
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Of course they must be counted. According to the Constitution - remember that one? - representation is determined by the number of persons. Yes, really.

Article One, Section 2, Clause 3. Google it.
Illegal aliens are not citizens, they are not residents. They are trespassers, interlopers, illegal, not belonging, they are perpetual law breakers that are deportable when caught. Simple as that.
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Old 07-08-2019, 09:59 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) argued Monday that President Trump's push to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census is an effort to "make America white again" in an adaptation of his campaign slogan.

Huh? What is this loon talking about?
The US is 76% White. There is no "again" yet.
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Old 07-08-2019, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Counting illegals gives states with more illegals more representation in the House. Therein lies the problem, with states like California receiving more House representatives and a greater number of electoral votes. No one other than Democrats believes that is proper.
No. You're wrong.
The census mandates that everyone, citizens or not, must be counted. Without knowing our number, the government is blinded to our citizen's needs and the changes that have happened over the past 10 years.

Counting gives no one permission to vote. Only citizens who are of legal age and are legally registered are allowed to vote.

The census, however, provides the government with a ton of information it needs. Most of it is civic in nature; the government needs to know, for example, how people are moving around inside the nation, which states are growing or shrinking and which states are static, neither growing nor shrinking in population. This alone gives the government info it needs to plan ahead for things like new highways, interstate commerce, and many other things that are federal in responsibility.

They also need to know how many young are here, because they will need schools, how many old there are as they will need increasing medical and social help, and lots of other stuff that has nothing at all to do with politics, especially party politics.

The census is used to create the government's budgets, projections, and all kinds of fiscal stuff.

It shows where the major demographic changes are happening, and it does affect the electoral college, as a shrinking state can lose a district in the House, while a growing state can add a district.

The census also provides local and state governments the info they need to plan ahead as well. It also provides our private entities of all kinds info so they can make plans.
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Old 07-08-2019, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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Its so dam simple. The democrats know that if the illegals are not counted they lose numerous electoral college seats. So while illegals are not allowed to vote(even though we all know millions do) they count to the electoral college when we all vote. California, New York, Illinois lose seats.
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