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This came up in a topic in the Automotive section. Thought it would be good to discuss here. Spain plans on eliminating all oil and gas infrastructure by 2040. I'm not up on Spain's economy so I can't say if they can afford to subsidize this or not.
Could something like this happen here in the states ? Personally, I think it's a fairy tale, and if it did become reality it would take 50-60 years to go into effect , not 22. Now when they stated oil and gas, I'm assuming they meant natural gas.
Think of all the things that we rely on that utilize petroleum.
How are freight trains going to run ?
Semi trucks ?
If the Federal government going to pay for homeowner , rental owner, hotel owner etc to replace their heating , stoves, and dryers if they are natural gas ?
What will the cost be to heat a home in the northern climates with an electric heater ?
Can the current solar and windfarms keep up with added demand for electricity ?
Are all the black topped roads going to be replaced with concrete ?
Are all homes going to be required to replace their current shingles with wood or tile ?
The questions are endless, with no real answers. Just yada , yada, yada, it's the future, it's good for the environment , this will happen...etc.
This came up in a topic in the Automotive section. Thought it would be good to discuss here. Spain plans on eliminating all oil and gas infrastructure by 2040. I'm not up on Spain's economy so I can't say if they can afford to subsidize this or not.
Could something like this happen here in the states ? Personally, I think it's a fairy tale, and if it did become reality it would take 50-60 years to go into effect , not 22. Now when they stated oil and gas, I'm assuming they meant natural gas.
Think of all the things that we rely on that utilize petroleum.
How are freight trains going to run ?
Semi trucks ?
If the Federal government going to pay for homeowner , rental owner, hotel owner etc to replace their heating , stoves, and dryers if they are natural gas ?
What will the cost be to heat a home in the northern climates with an electric heater ?
Can the current solar and windfarms keep up with added demand for electricity ?
Are all the black topped roads going to be replaced with concrete ?
Are all homes going to be required to replace their current shingles with wood or tile ?
The questions are endless, with no real answers. Just yada , yada, yada, it's the future, it's good for the environment , this will happen...etc.
I agree, at least not in my lifetime. Yet we have huge corporations (General Motors) restructuring their company (20% global head count reduction) to jump into this...
It's impressive in part because they actually name some actionable items instead of just goals: changing the auto fleet, eliminating O&G subsidies, investing in renewable energy, raising the bar for energy efficiency in new housing, committing funds to retrofitting housing especially for vulnerable populations (addressing environmental justice). The plan will only see success if the enforcement side has teeth.
It's impressive in part because they actually name some actionable items instead of just goals: changing the auto fleet, eliminating O&G subsidies, investing in renewable energy, raising the bar for energy efficiency in new housing, committing funds to retrofitting housing especially for vulnerable populations (addressing environmental justice). The plan will only see success if the enforcement side has teeth.
Other countries are way ahead of us, Germany, Chile, Argentina going green meanwhile we stand out as one of the few countries with climate deniers in positions of responsibility. We are worried about the bringing back coal while the rest of the world is moving ahead.
Extrapolating to 2050 would predict that the majority of the world's fleet of vehicles might be electric. Producing most electricity with fossil fuels is also apparently feasible:
But all the questions of is this feasible and how much will it cost are somewhat moot. By 2050 the supply of oil and gas is likely to be so reduced that we will have little option.
Other countries are way ahead of us, Germany, Chile, Argentina going green meanwhile we stand out as one of the few countries with climate deniers in positions of responsibility. We are worried about the bringing back coal while the rest of the world is moving ahead.
US is developing green technology and nothing has hindered that pursuit. The US is well ahead of any other country in cutting pollution and green house gases.
Chile, Argentina??????
Chile is the size of texas. 15 million people, NJ has 8 million people.
most of chile is undeveloped with population centers in just a few cities.
justice system is non existent.
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