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Old 07-11-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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They were also inflicting physical harm to other people. Animals like this have no remorse and will only harm more people. Yes, animals like that need to be killed en masse.
You mean like a genocide?
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Old 07-11-2019, 02:07 PM
 
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I don't know how long. The only reason I know about this is because it was mentioned on city-data. I don't watch the news. I've only heard about this stuff thanks to this site. I do know about some of the going ons in the Atlanta area. I've wondered why Atlanta proper isn't seeing much of this "flash robbery" activity. I've wondered why it has happened more in Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Chicago, Minneapolis, and Kansas City. I have rarely ever heard this stuff taking place in Atlanta.

In fact, there are times I wonder why Kansas City has a higher murder rate than Atlanta despite Kansas City being 29% White and Atlanta being 52% Black.

I will say this. When the push back takes place, I don't want to be anywhere near it. I just hope some people are smart enough to keep their pushback exclusively for those who committed crimes and not go after individuals like myself.
The pushback will restrict all our freedoms...or the stores will just close and move out of these areas and then the sjw clowns will scream racism.
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Old 07-11-2019, 02:12 PM
 
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The pushback will restrict all our freedoms...or the stores will just close and move out of these areas and then the sjw clowns will scream racism.
I live in the suburbs. Store closures in the inner city areas won't affect me much. I'm not saying that I want those stores to close. This is what I'm saying. What will hit much closer to home for me is what individuals might do to me out of anger. I'm more worried about that because if there is any push back, even the innocent could get affected.

And explain restricting all of our freedoms.
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Old 07-11-2019, 03:00 PM
 
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I had similar experiences at the hands of some White kids when I was in middle school and high school. When I was in middle school, a White high school kid shot me with a paintball gun, at the bus stop. I also had an experience of being kicked when I was down. I was on crutches on day and two boys kicked the crutches from under me, sending me tumbling to the ground. This happened in a classroom full of kids. I turned the kids in. The boys never got in trouble because no one would come forward and say the saw anything. This was not in the ghetto, and this was not in a predominantly Black area. This happened to me in a predominantly White suburb/exurb in Georgia.

Funny you mention El Paso. Getting robbed isn't something I worry about. Walking into a gang territory is something I think about if I were ever to visit. I could live with the fact that being Black, I would stand out immensely. My one worry about that city are the gangs there.
A big white girl always threated to kick my ass, for what <shrug?>. I ignored her. One day I walked into the BR and there she was. I am a petite white girl and it was obvious I would lose, I am not a fighter but I wasn't going down without a fight. She was in my face but the next thing I know a big black girl got between us, had her finger in the big white girls face, told her if I hear of you ever laying one hand on her (me) your ass is mine. Thank you Vera. The white girl never bothered me again lol.
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Old 07-11-2019, 03:42 PM
 
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I had similar experiences at the hands of some White kids when I was in middle school and high school. When I was in middle school, a White high school kid shot me with a paintball gun, at the bus stop. I also had an experience of being kicked when I was down. I was on crutches on day and two boys kicked the crutches from under me, sending me tumbling to the ground. This happened in a classroom full of kids. I turned the kids in. The boys never got in trouble because no one would come forward and say the saw anything. This was not in the ghetto, and this was not in a predominantly Black area. This happened to me in a predominantly White suburb/exurb in Georgia.

Funny you mention El Paso. Getting robbed isn't something I worry about. Walking into a gang territory is something I think about if I were ever to visit. I could live with the fact that being Black, I would stand out immensely. My one worry about that city are the gangs there.

Where I went to high school the football players and their friends, mostly black but some white too, would attack me on frequent basis. One of the football players even kicked me in the stomach causing my to lose my first pregnancy. My rapist was the father of that baby too. Nothing ever happened to any of these people. The school covered for them because they needed these students to play sports for them. So I was skinny, partially emaciated teenaged girl about 90lbs being beat up by football players that were sometimes over 200 lbs and the school did zilch to protect me but I was forced by law to show up and take the beatings. My rapist was a government employee who did tutoring jobs for the school system on the side. The government covered for him as well and then the church and my parents forced me to marry him when I was a child because I wasn't a virgin anymore. I ended up having to have a hysterectomy in my early twenties because of the damage done from all the beatings and rapes, so I will never be able to have a real family. Schools and other government agencies protect whomever they want.
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Old 07-11-2019, 03:46 PM
 
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Why do people excuse this criminal behavior mainly because they are a protected class?

They pulled it off because they knew they wouldn't be opposed. At what point would you interceed?
I actually do not excuse this behavior on any level, and think each and every one of those kids and young adults should be help to account for their actions.

However my post you quoted was discussing reasonable actions against the perpetrators, not condoning their behavior.
I can only assume others who feel strict law & order should be brought to bear are not advocating what the OP did, that being killing petty thieves and vandals.

Your thoughts?


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Old 07-11-2019, 03:46 PM
 
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You mean like a genocide?

Not really. Genocide targets the innocent as well as the guilty.
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Old 07-11-2019, 03:59 PM
 
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I don't know how long. The only reason I know about this is because it was mentioned on city-data. I don't watch the news. I've only heard about this stuff thanks to this site. I do know about some of the going ons in the Atlanta area. I've wondered why Atlanta proper isn't seeing much of this "flash robbery" activity. I've wondered why it has happened more in Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Chicago, Minneapolis, and Kansas City. I have rarely ever heard this stuff taking place in Atlanta.

In fact, there are times I wonder why Kansas City has a higher murder rate than Atlanta despite Kansas City being 29% White and Atlanta being 52% Black.

I will say this. When the push back takes place, I don't want to be anywhere near it. I just hope some people are smart enough to keep their pushback exclusively for those who committed crimes and not go after individuals like myself.
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I live in the suburbs. Store closures in the inner city areas won't affect me much. I'm not saying that I want those stores to close. This is what I'm saying. What will hit much closer to home for me is what individuals might do to me out of anger. I'm more worried about that because if there is any push back, even the innocent could get affected.

And explain restricting all of our freedoms.
You can’t single people out so how do you prevent these types of crimes? I’m sure the solutions will not be good for the shoppers.
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Old 07-11-2019, 04:00 PM
 
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They were also inflicting physical harm to other people. Animals like this have no remorse and will only harm more people. Yes, animals like that need to be killed en masse.


Well lets get to basics first. I did not see any animals, I saw criminal behavior by human beings, many young and stupid.

I will have to re-watch the video, because I did not see them physically harming anyone, but maybe I was just casually watching and missed it.

As to "killing en masse", if our society does not believe crimes such as rape, child molestation, etc. are worthy of the death penalty, we certainly do not think thieves and vandals being executed is correct.
Most of those kids were probably punks and fools, deserving to pay a price, but they certainly did not deserve to die.

I don't know about you, but few people on this earth deserve to die by my hand, as I am not God, nor will I be their final judge.
Kill or harm someone in a way that scars the victim for life (aforementioned examples), and society should consider the ultimate price be paid on an individual basis.
This video did not show anyone rising to that level in my view.


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Old 07-11-2019, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I would not mind having you as my neighbor. One thing I've understood is that being a racist person isn't good for anyone. I just want to see decency.

I thought about what you mentioned about crime in Chicago. I live in the far west suburbs of Atlanta, but I have frequently worked in the city of Atlanta. I've been a victim of theft. And not in the rougher southwest side of Atlanta. This happened in Midtown, the nicer part of Atlanta. Violent crime has dropped alot. Theft is a huge problem.
Exactly. They're going where people have the goods they want.


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Another flash robbery. This time it's in Boston.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKJt9D0tGK0


And this is my theory behind the flash robberies. Strength in numbers. If you can't identify them all, you can't arrest them all. If it was just one or two people, they would have been apprehended fast.
Like looters.

This is why people in mostly white communities don't want section 8 housing or busing. Because along with law-abiding citizens, you'll get the dregs. And that's not just from me, that's from my Asian, Hispanic and black neighbors.

G_M, I know in the past it seems like you've taken offense to people opposed to busing and housing - but it has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with this mess.
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