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Old 07-13-2019, 03:37 PM
 
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It shouldn't really matter which administration has deported more. It's just a token gesture on they're part to give the impression that they're doing something. It's still only a drop in the bucket when compared to the tens of millions of illegal invaders that are still here and allowed to stay indefinitely. Along with the millions that are still on their way.
Half a million out of 11.5. Drop in the bucket.

Neither the congress nor any administration has been serious about our border.

The Chamber, the National Restaurant Association. The National home builders give Congress their marching orders. Those of us picking up the tab count for nothing.

We will continue to get lip service.

 
Old 07-13-2019, 03:40 PM
 
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Some of the folks here are clueless. Just mouthing something they heard on tv.

I have asked a jillion times, how long would it take, how much would it cost to deport all illegals here.

Not one person ever entertained the thought. They do not want to rock the good economy boat with mass deportations.

Even the people they are going after tomorrow have known for months or years they were on borrowed time, warrants and all the rest have been issued.

It's all smoke and mirrors.
Are you kidding?

They cost us $100 billion per year.

I don't care how long it would take- let's start now. I would imagine that with initial massive deportations, many would "self deport" as well.

The typical liberal solution- ignore the problem and pass it on to the next guy!

Why have any laws if we are not going to enforce them?
 
Old 07-13-2019, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The point is that millions have been deported under a Democratic president, so I answered the posters question "WHAT HAVE DEMS DONE TO PROVE...blah blah blah". Trump hasn't kept up, btw.
The point is that the amount of people deported under any administration is minuscule when compared to the amount of people that are allowed to stay. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands that continue to invade this country annually. Of which both the Republicans and Democrats haven't done a God d**n thing and probably won't. Otherwise they would have done something already. No president can mass deport anyone by executive fiat, btw. It's got to go through both congress and the senate first. In this latest case those that are being rounded up by ICE have already been ordered out of the country in court of law. Trump is fully within his powers to order ICE to carry out a lawful order.

As far as the Democrats running for president are concerned, after listening to all of their rhetoric there is no question that they are all for open borders. If they weren't they wouldn't be offering them free healthcare benefits courtesy of the American taxpayer which by the way they are now doing in California. California is hardly a Republican state. In addition the Democrat mayors of sanctuary cities have promised not to cooperate with ICE in deporting the illegal invaders within their cities. Invaders that have been officially ordered in a court of law to be deported.

Nancy Pelosi who is speaker of the house has also come out and given the illegal invaders advise on how to avoid ICE by refusing to open their doors to them. At least to my knowledge Nancy Pelosi is not a Republican. Neither is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or Robert Francis O'Rourke who likened our immigration laws to modern day slavery. Ocasio-Cortez made wild claims of illegal invaders drinking out of toilets while being held in detention facilities and likened them to the Nazi concentration camps of which 10's millions were rounded up and exterminated.

Cory Booker another Democrat walked five Cuban and Honduran asylum seekers over an international bridge. In order to thwart immigration enforcement policies under the Trump administration.

Congressional Democrats also recently introduced legislation to abolish ICE.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo rolled out an array of programs aimed at helping illegal invaders residing in New York to become citizens—which he vowed would change the demographics and politics of the Empire State. “Just think about that. Just think about how it would change the state. Change the complexion of the state. One million people added to the 18 million people who are now citizens in the state of New York,” the governor said. “You add one million citizens to the voting rolls in this state, that’s a significant, significant difference. You do that nationwide, it’s a significant difference,”.

Yet we're supposed to believe the line of bulls**t that Democrats are not for open borders?

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Democrats ready ‘Abolish ICE’ legislation - The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.f3a07db12351
Democrats ready ‘Abolish ICE’ legislation ... Pocan said he would introduce a bill to end ICE. One day later, Democratic congressional candidate ... The legislation also would ensure that ...
How's that for some...blah blah blah? So I guess it's you who hasn't kept up, btw? Either that or you've got your head in the sand or just plain refuse to accept it?
 
Old 07-13-2019, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Half a million out of 11.5. Drop in the bucket.

Neither the congress nor any administration has been serious about our border.

The Chamber, the National Restaurant Association. The National home builders give Congress their marching orders. Those of us picking up the tab count for nothing.

We will continue to get lip service.
You'll not get any argument from me on that!
 
Old 07-13-2019, 04:10 PM
 
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Are you kidding?

They cost us $100 billion per year.

I don't care how long it would take- let's start now. I would imagine that with initial massive deportations, many would "self deport" as well.

The typical liberal solution- ignore the problem and pass it on to the next guy!

Why have any laws if we are not going to enforce them?
This years crop of POTUS candidates not withstanding, nobody in the White House or the Capitol building has done jack to deport those already here. Hell, they can't even find the Visa overstays. Talk about inept, or is it a blind eye? As long as they can pit liberal and conservative against each other, they have won.

The Congress of the USA does not give a flip.It doesn't matter what it cost the taxpayer. The spif is to the elected. All they care about is getting re elected. My plan has always been do not re elect anybody.
 
Old 07-13-2019, 04:22 PM
 
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Pelosi said walls are immoral. If that's not advocating for open borders then I don't know what is.
 
Old 07-13-2019, 04:23 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Pelosi said walls are immoral. If that's not advocating for open borders then I don't know what is.
Pelosi said that in terms of Trumps' anti-immigrant rhetoric.
 
Old 07-13-2019, 04:24 PM
 
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Pelosi said walls are immoral. If that's not advocating for open borders then I don't know what is.
If she's advocating a budget of hundreds of millions of dollars in our Fed Budget, would you say she for or against open borders?

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/41...opposes-trumps
 
Old 07-13-2019, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Half a million out of 11.5. Drop in the bucket.

Neither the congress nor any administration has been serious about our border.

The Chamber, the National Restaurant Association. The National home builders give Congress their marching orders. Those of us picking up the tab count for nothing.

We will continue to get lip service.
^^^^^This. That's why the Establishment Republicans, which are most of them, are fighting Trump.
 
Old 07-13-2019, 05:27 PM
 
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If she's advocating a budget of hundreds of millions of dollars in our Fed Budget, would you say she for or against open borders?

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/41...opposes-trumps
Doesn't change the fact that she won't support good physical barriers on our border and says that walls are immoral unless you are claiming that she talks out of both sides of her mouth.

Trump merely wants the 700 miles on the most porous areas of of border built and fixed where they are too flimsy and are breachable along with an additional 300 miles of the good physical barriers. The 700 miles was already approved with both Obama and Schumer's signatures on it back in 2006 but suddenly they don't want it? That's not a 2,000 mile border wall that your article was claiming. In the areas that they have already been built they have proven to be very effective in deterring illegal entry so why do the Democrats and their supporters keep claiming that they are useless?
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