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Old 07-13-2019, 05:34 PM
 
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Doesn't change the fact that she won't support good physical barriers on our border and says that walls are immoral unless you are claiming that she talks out of both sides of her mouth.
2,000 mile wall (what he promised) that Mexico finances (what he promised) is your and his solution. But it isn't the only solution. There are a variety of other ways to secure the country. Your half trillion dollar wall is a waste of money for the taxpayer (since Mex won't pay for it as he promised).


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46824649

 
Old 07-13-2019, 05:57 PM
 
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2,000 mile wall (what he promised) that Mexico finances (what he promised) is your and his solution. But it isn't the only solution. There are a variety of other ways to secure the country. Your half trillion dollar wall is a waste of money for the taxpayer (since Mex won't pay for it as he promised).


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46824649

He has long ago re-evaluated a need for a 2,000 mile long wall yet you and your fellow liberals keep harping about it. Don't count your chickens that Mexico won't end up paying for it either and he never said they'd write a check for it. No one has said that good physical barriers are the total solution but you and yours keep saying they shouldn't be a part of the solution at all!!!! How many times do I have to post the links proving that the good walls do work along with the sentiments of the Border Patrol and Homeland Security proving that they do before you stop closing your eyes and covering your ears to the truth? IMO, those who oppose the wall have an ulterior motive and it's because they don't want the flow of illegals to be deterred.

Your motive is clear as you were the one under another topic who was demonizing white American workers while praising and claiming that Hispanics are superior to them. You don't fool me one bit!

What half a trillion wall? The estimate was for $25 billion so WTH are you talking about? Yet your and yours don't blink an eye at the over $100 billion a year that illegal aliens cost us. You didn't blink and eye when the actual wall bill was passed back in 2006 and it was soley to be the taxpayer to fund it. Why was that?

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Old 07-28-2019, 08:56 AM
 
Location: NYC
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The New Democratic Socialistic Party is packed full of no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works,
no common sense, nothing but abstract, empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.


Their actions and lack of common sense policy will seal their fate


"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,'
they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."

- Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Presidential Candidate
The problem with them is no one among the progressives has ever had a reality tv show to prepare them for holding public office.
 
Old 07-28-2019, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Haven't heard the Dems plan for preventing people that legally don't belong here from coming in. What is it? Anybody know? If it's not open borders, what is it? Be specific.
 
Old 07-28-2019, 08:16 PM
 
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Haven't heard the Dems plan for preventing people that legally don't belong here from coming in. What is it? Anybody know? If it's not open borders, what is it? Be specific.

They don't have a plan because they want them to be able to keep coming here unabated. It helps retain the ethnocentric Hispanic-American vote and they want these illegals to be future Democrat voters also.
 
Old 07-28-2019, 08:31 PM
 
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If all consequences for crossing our borders illegally are purposely not enforced, then that amounts to Defacto open borders, regardless of actual law.

Laws are only as effective as any government's willingness and ability to enforce them..
I read this article about the Trump administration plan to round up illegals:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/14/polit...nts/index.html

"ICE will not comment on operational details of the raids, Cuccinelli said, adding that the priority will be apprehending violent criminals and aggravated felons. ICE agents are not "utilizing" allegations of crossing the border illegally, a misdemeanor, as cause for arrest in the raids, he said"

Sounds just like Obama's policy, prioritizing felons and drug dealers. Show me one this Trump has done that has had any effect on illegal immigration.
 
Old 07-28-2019, 08:36 PM
 
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He has long ago re-evaluated a need for a 2,000 mile long wall yet you and your fellow liberals keep harping about it. Don't count your chickens that Mexico won't end up paying for it either and he never said they'd write a check for it. No one has said that good physical barriers are the total solution but you and yours keep saying they shouldn't be a part of the solution at all!!!! How many times do I have to post the links proving that the good walls do work along with the sentiments of the Border Patrol and Homeland Security proving that they do before you stop closing your eyes and covering your ears to the truth? IMO, those who oppose the wall have an ulterior motive and it's because they don't want the flow of illegals to be deterred.

Your motive is clear as you were the one under another topic who was demonizing white American workers while praising and claiming that Hispanics are superior to them. You don't fool me one bit!

What half a trillion wall? The estimate was for $25 billion so WTH are you talking about? Yet your and yours don't blink an eye at the over $100 billion a year that illegal aliens cost us. You didn't blink and eye when the actual wall bill was passed back in 2006 and it was soley to be the taxpayer to fund it. Why was that?
Everyone, even conservatives, knew that "Mexico will pay for it" was a bunch of BS when Trump said that in 2016. So I, for one, would be happy if Trump builds his wall, once the first check arrives from Mexico. And $100 billion per year? FAKE NEWS. I have rebutted that false claim here before.
 
Old 07-29-2019, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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how do you know they are illegal and not here on a work visas?


or you assume they are illegal because they are brown and from costa rica?
Where ya been? It was all over the news, well maybe not Faux news. Read Politico: Undocumented immigrants work for Trump's Bedminster golf club. Did you miss the fired workers testifying before Congress? Read The Washington Times : Trump business empire shuns E-Verify, hires illegal immigrants. "Just five of the 566 companies in President Trump's business empire are signed up to use E-Verify......Wait a minute. Isn't The Washington Times a conservative media outlet? Um yep.
(Sorry, I'm just too lazy to post links today. Google is your friend and you might read something else interesting on that subject. I also have to go get Lenny our neighbor's puppy. He spends a lot of time here and that's why I don't post much these days.)

Well well Fox news is reporting that Jeff Merkley: Democrats don't support open borders, it's a myth.



Imagine the world that opens up when you become informed through research. It's a beautiful thing.

Now I need to research how to get a Yorkie to stop hating a puppy.
 
Old 07-29-2019, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Cali
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Where ya been? It was all over the news, well maybe not Faux news. Read Politico: Undocumented immigrants work for Trump's Bedminster golf club. Did you miss the fired workers testifying before Congress? Read The Washington Times : Trump business empire shuns E-Verify, hires illegal immigrants. "Just five of the 566 companies in President Trump's business empire are signed up to use E-Verify......Wait a minute. Isn't The Washington Times a conservative media outlet? Um yep.
(Sorry, I'm just too lazy to post links today. Google is your friend and you might read something else interesting on that subject. I also have to go get Lenny our neighbor's puppy. He spends a lot of time here and that's why I don't post much these days.)

Well well Fox news is reporting that Jeff Merkley: Democrats don't support open borders, it's a myth.



Imagine the world that opens up when you become informed through research. It's a beautiful thing.

Now I need to research how to get a Yorkie to stop hating a puppy.
I still want to know the actual source (a news article is not a source).


I've been an immigration officer for over a decade. If I want to run an immigrant to determine his admissibility status, I have to go through a bunch of DHS data bases (IFAIS, IDENT, TECS, IRS, AFI, etc.)


Where did the news get their source?
 
Old 07-29-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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Everyone, even conservatives, knew that "Mexico will pay for it" was a bunch of BS when Trump said that in 2016. So I, for one, would be happy if Trump builds his wall, once the first check arrives from Mexico. And $100 billion per year? FAKE NEWS. I have rebutted that false claim here before.
It's not BS! How do you know that Trump's plan on Mexican tariffs hasn't gone into effect or will? The over $100 billion a year that illegals cost us is not fake news. I have posted a link on how that number was derived at. Did you b*tch and complain when the actual wall bill was passed with both Schumer and Obama's signature on it back in 2006 and it was soley to be the taxpayer to fund it? Don't be a hypocrite now!
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