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Old 07-13-2019, 05:04 PM
 
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The legacy of poverty and lack of development in the south is largely the result of the previous Democrat regimes.
Brownback's regime in Kansas pretty much negates your theory I'm afraid. Hardcore fiscal conservative slashes taxes thinking that supply side trickle down was going to cause business to bloom. All it did was bankrupt the budget and forced schools to close.
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:14 PM
 
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The economies are strong here because of the people not because of the parties/government.
California is No. 5 in world GDP, No. 1 in US GDP and No. 1 in manufacturing because of government policies and investment years ago.

Decades ago California believed in a New Deal type of heavy public investment. It was a "three legged stool":

-- build world class universities and state colleges
-- build a massive transportation network
-- build a massive water conveyance system

Once these were in place this infrastructure was the foundation on which private industry blossomed and grew. Every single taxpayer dollar invested in that infrastructure has been repaid many times over.
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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California is No. 5 in world GDP, No. 1 in US GDP and No. 1 in manufacturing because of government policies and investment years ago.

Decades ago California believed in a New Deal type of heavy public investment. It was a "three legged stool":

-- build world class universities and state colleges
-- build a massive transportation network
-- build a massive water conveyance system

Once these were in place this infrastructure was the foundation on which private industry blossomed and grew. Every single taxpayer dollar invested in that infrastructure has been repaid many times over.
The first one wasn't part of the new deal. In fact populism in the 50s and 60s was general against academic elite and the need for a college degree.

Work has changed since then. The new deal was also heavy on anti-trust regulation and keep companies divided and small.

California's economy is based on massive corporations and mergers.
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:23 PM
 
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I live in Georgia. Next door is the state of Alabama. It ranks 37th in being business friendly. It ranks 37th in education. It ranks 22nd in cost of doing business. Alabama is not very business friendly, and it ranks poorly in terms of education. It ranks 49th in quality of life. Figures. Alabama has the 2nd highest murder rate in the USA. All of this, and Alabama is a conservative state.
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:28 PM
 
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The first one wasn't part of the new deal. In fact populism in the 50s and 60s was general against academic elite and the need for a college degree.
Much of the build-out of Calif public universities and colleges began with Gov. Pat Brown's college Master Plan of 1960. Included in that was a policy that the top 1/8th of the graduating high school class was guaranteed admission to UC tuition-free.
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Very true. Most southern states did not turn red until recently, and at the state level, they have only been consistently red since the 1990s. The legacy of poverty and lack of development in the south is largely the result of the previous Democrat regimes.

The south has made tremendous strides in catching up with the rest of the country with regards to economic development since the Republicans have taken over.
Yes, the South was largely rural and agricultural until the 1950s, when the "New South" began to emerge. Southern schools were still 70% segregated until 1968, when President Nixon moved to enforce the 1954 SCOTUS decision that segregation was unconstitutional.

Edit: and the South did not become majority red until 1994, so only 25 years ago.
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Brownback's regime in Kansas pretty much negates your theory I'm afraid. Hardcore fiscal conservative slashes taxes thinking that supply side trickle down was going to cause business to bloom. All it did was bankrupt the budget and forced schools to close.
Oklahoma provides a better example than Kansas what happens from the result of cutting taxes. Like Kansas, Oklahoma found it had to raise taxes. Instead of fixing things Democrats caused, Republicans only made things worse, though, one notable exception to that was that Oklahoma Republicans allowed people to vote on modernizing the state's alcohol laws.
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Old 07-14-2019, 02:43 AM
 
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What a misleading topic subject that you've written. The states are ranked by way of how they market themselves and not based on true economic numbers. I kind of feel embarrassed for you to be so easily misled.

Each category is weighted according to how frequently states use them as a selling point in economic development marketing materials. That way, our study ranks the states based on the attributes they use to sell themselves.
Yet another thread where the title is a lie.

Either the OP is deliberately lying, or is not able to comprehend the information.
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Old 07-14-2019, 02:48 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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KFC: We do chicken right

Conservatives: We do (our brand) socialism right
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Old 07-14-2019, 02:59 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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I guess you also felt the need to not mention it was 1st in technology and innovation. Doesn't go with your narrative so let's be sure to be super biased and hope the dumb people won't actually read anything themselves.

The people to whom the OP is playing this nonsense don't need any facts and they don't respond to any presentation that is balanced. But the time is running out for that dumbed-down minority and continued attempts to rally them will be met with greatly diminished returns.
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