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Old 07-16-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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As long as we are not addressing the employer angle, I'm going to support the people angle. I do not try and hide that.
When will you begin to support the American people angle?
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Old 07-16-2019, 10:44 AM
 
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Si.

I don’t think ICE has the workforce for mass deportations. The people who were the target this weekend already had deportation notices.

Imagine the logistics needed to remove millions of people.
There is no plan for mass deportations. Just go after those whom we know where they live and as the others make themselves known detain and deport them. It's the law!

Did you actually agree that everyone who speaks Spanish is entitled to reparations. Reparations for what?
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Old 07-16-2019, 10:46 AM
 
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When will you begin to support the American people angle?
Here that poster goes again claiming we aren't going after the employers even though I have shown otherwise numerous time. I wonder why he/she keeps repeating themselves over and over?
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Old 07-16-2019, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Exactly this all a dog and pony show for his followers and they are eating up.
Exactly.


Anyone have any confirmed numbers on those taken into custody?
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Old 07-16-2019, 10:57 AM
 
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Who knows, maybe Trump is trying to lull the illegals into a false sense of security? Bunch of false alarms and pretty soon they just ignore the alarm. I would love to see ICE raids nail the illegals where they work along with their greedy employers.

Oh, yeah........he is just that clever ! Face it , this yuge ICE raid thing was a flop, as it should be. Just like his little "wall" fiasco, or his failed negotiations with Kim Jung Un.

The man (and I use that term lightly) has no idea what the Hell he is doing and uses bluster and insults to try to mask his stupidity. Sad part is, some people are fooled by it and somehow think he is being crafty.
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Old 07-16-2019, 11:01 AM
 
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No. But I think the people who usually express concern for illegal immigration would be more than happy to see the employers penalized.


In the grand scheme, neither the illegal immigrants NOR the employers are facing any real consequences for their action.


Statistically, nobody gets deported if you look at the 10 million - 20 million here illegally, and the mere "thousands" deported.
Of course we want the employers caught and penalized. However, until e-verify is mandated it's hard to prove that they "knowingly" had illegals working for them. They present very authentic looking fake or stolen ID's so there is no way of knowing. Many employers pay them in cash. Over and over again I have stated that Trump has had e-verify in his last two budgets but was probably voted down by the Democrats just like in the past. They won't sign an e-verify bill unless there is an amnesty attached to it.

Trump reinstated the workplace raids that were discontinued under Obama and there have been a few employers caught and held accountable recently. A nursery and a garbage company just for example were caught and convicted. So to say that the employers aren't being held accountable is nonsense. Get the Democrats to go along with e-verify as a stand alone bill and it will stop further abuse by both the employers and their illegal hires. A bill needs to be crafted that includes making those already on a payroll pass it also. The Gang of 8 bill didn't allow for that and it wouldn't even go into effect for 5 years!
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Old 07-16-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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Oh, yeah........he is just that clever ! Face it , this yuge ICE raid thing was a flop, as it should be. Just like his little "wall" fiasco, or his failed negotiations with Kim Jung Un.

The man (and I use that term lightly) has no idea what the Hell he is doing and uses bluster and insults to try to mask his stupidity. Sad part is, some people are fooled by it and somehow think he is being crafty.
How do you know it was a flop? Cause the liberal MSN told you so? Wall fiasco? He never stopped fighting for it but it was the Democrats that wouldn't fund it so he has tried other avenues and in some cases liberal judges have tried to stop him also. He should be praised for his continued efforts to get it built.

His negotiations with a foreign leader has nothing to do with illegal immigration so there is no reason to bring that up in this forum. Bluster and insults? They have usually been because he was attacked first. The stupid ones are those who won't support securing our border and want a mass amnesty instead.
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Old 07-16-2019, 12:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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The supposed ICE raids was another example of Trump's deliberate misinformation campaign to make us believe he took some action which in reality never happened. Hard facts. Trump has no comprehensive plan whatsoever to remove illegals even though he had two years of a Republican majority in the House and Senate to do something. Trump's big buck donors want cheap illegal labor to keep profits up.


The administration indicated that some 2,000 illegals who had ignored court ordered deportation orders would be rounded up. It now appears that just a handful were arrested. Even local law agencies and other officials in the targeted cities have said they have no knowledge whatsoever of any raids. The Trump administration. Lies and smoke and mirrors.
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Old 07-16-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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When will you begin to support the American people angle?
As far as I'm concerned I am. Kowtowing to every whim of business/wall street IMO is very anti-people.
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Old 07-16-2019, 12:44 PM
 
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Here that poster goes again claiming we aren't going after the employers even though I have shown otherwise numerous time. I wonder why he/she keeps repeating themselves over and over?
No you haven't. You don't even have the cajones to address me.
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