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Old 04-01-2019, 02:31 PM
 
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Doubling wages for all our unskilled labor (essentially bringing HHI up to $60,000 for couples) will of course drive costs of products and services up - from a weekly outing to Golden Corral, to buying new socks at Walmart, to apartment rents, to the price of ground chuck at Cheapo Groceries around the corner - used by our elderly on modest, fixed incomes.

Any consideration for them? Many of them have trouble putting food on the table as it is. The average SS check is something like $1200 a month, and other than public employees, older people have no pensions.

I say we should divert the billions it is costing us to provide for illegal immigrants and give it to the old folks, and hold the minimum wage hike to $10 an hour. If that's not enough, these low earners can get a fully-paid vocational training program via Pell Grants and learn a marketable skill.

Let the argument commence:

 
Old 04-01-2019, 02:35 PM
 
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Cut our bloated defense budget, rescind the obscene tax giveaway to the top one percent and corporations, and use that to increase SS benefits. All while allowing younger people the ability to support themselves.

See how easy that was?
 
Old 04-01-2019, 02:38 PM
 
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Nowhere near as much as using their money for free to boost the wealth of hedge fund manager.
 
Old 04-01-2019, 02:41 PM
 
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15 an hour? good, lets put struggling seniors back to work, that's what it will do. Even seniors with some money looking for something to do will get an opportunity for part-time work
 
Old 04-01-2019, 02:41 PM
 
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But that $15 min wage I don’t think it’s going to be for full time workers , it’ll be part time only without benefits , no ones going to pay $15 an hour full time plus benefits .
 
Old 04-01-2019, 02:43 PM
 
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there was an physicist that say, for every action there is an opposite but equal reactions. I thing that where the saying "**** happens"


so wages go up, nothing can be done about it but the equal and opposite reaction, people quit spending money
 
Old 04-01-2019, 02:44 PM
 
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But that $15 min wage I don’t think it’s going to be for full time workers , it’ll be part time only without benefits , no ones going to pay $15 an hour full time plus benefits .
Minimum wage jobs rarely pay benefits. It's why we need UHC. Even those serving you your dinner get sick.
 
Old 04-01-2019, 02:44 PM
 
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Cut our bloated defense budget, rescind the obscene tax giveaway to the top one percent and corporations, and use that to increase SS benefits. All while allowing younger people the ability to support themselves.

See how easy that was?

Easy? Surely the three groups you mention, the MIC, the one percenters, and corporations comprise the majority owners of those who make the laws: Congress!
 
Old 04-01-2019, 02:46 PM
 
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Cut our bloated defense budget, rescind the obscene tax giveaway to the top one percent and corporations, and use that to increase SS benefits. All while allowing younger people the ability to support themselves.

See how easy that was?
So in effect, reducing our military strength is preferable to putting a stop to the billions we spend on people who are in this country in violation of U.S. laws?

Obama had our troop levels down to the lowest point since WWII. Thanks, but no thanks.
 
Old 04-01-2019, 02:48 PM
 
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Easy? Surely the three groups you mention, the MIC, the one percenters, and corporations comprise the majority owners of those who make the laws: Congress!
True enough. I didn't say it would happen, but it's a place where obscene amounts of our money are wasted on people and corporations who don't need it. Feeding the MIC and the already obscenely wealthy is obviously more important than feeding our seniors.
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