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Old 07-17-2019, 05:47 PM
 
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What comes next?


Hopefully a lot of one-way fares purchased by extremist liberals to move to the places they like more than the United States, which seems to be anywhere but the United States.
Hating Trump's policies and his desecration of our Constitution and his denigration of our Democracy is not the same as hating America. Actually it is quite the opposite.

The right to disagree with the government, even in strong terms, is one of the most cherished of American values. Pretending the lack of admiration for one particular president, his administration and his policies is the same as disrespect for the United States violates our nation's founding principles. It is dishonest and disingenuous to slander people with this false notion!

Loyalty to the country does not demand taking an uncritical eye to its history or its present; all it requires is a commitment to the nation’s well-being.

Demanding Americans go back to where they came from or to leave their country because they have a differing view or ethnicity from Trump and his followers is just plain wrong and obscene. And un-American!

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Old 07-17-2019, 05:47 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Didn't answer the question. What does the country look like after Trump?

No matter what, America loses. It doesn't matter if it's in 2021 or 2025. We are talking about people, many of whom believe that the US might be "Mystery Babylon" in the book of Revelation and might be destroyed in an hour when Jesus comes back. These people have nothing but hatred and contempt for 2010s America. The "real America" they believe was lost during the Sixties when the sexual revolution and civil rights movement occurred. They want the 1950s back and they will destroy the country to get it.
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Old 07-17-2019, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Practice your Mandarin.
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Old 07-17-2019, 05:52 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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No matter what, America loses. It doesn't matter if it's in 2021 or 2025. We are talking about people, many of whom believe that the US might be "Mystery Babylon" in the book of Revelation and might be destroyed in an hour when Jesus comes back. These people have nothing but hatred and contempt for 2010s America. The "real America" they believe was lost during the Sixties when the sexual revolution and civil rights movement occurred. They want the 1950s back and they will destroy the country to get it.
You really need to move. Religion dominates your every thought. Every post you write, reverts back to religion. Most of us only think about religion on the holidays, and even then, not so much.
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Old 07-17-2019, 05:58 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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You really need to move. Religion dominates your every thought. Every post you write, reverts back to religion. Most of us only think about religion on the holidays, and even then, not so much.

It's because religion is a driving force behind the Trump phenomenon. Racist/alt right groups would have little power on their own without their alliance with the religious right. The solidarity of support from the religious right is why GOP politicians are so afraid to stand up to Trump.

There's something called Project Blitz right now which is a great threat to separation of church and state.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...eshape-america
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Old 07-17-2019, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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The Ship of State would shift to ramming-speed, heading for its self-inflicted collapse. Tens of millions would be starving on the streets and we would fit into a new classification, as a 4th-world country. Trump's sycophants, of course, would blame it all on his opponents, who wouldn't let him carry out his evil plans unchecked.
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Old 07-17-2019, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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If Trump loses, I greatly worry about what happens between November 2020 and January 2021.
If it comes to this, my bet would be that he’d get impeached and removed so fast heads will spin. Once he’s a lame duck the spineless GOP enablers would no longer need to be afraid of him and would jump on the impeachment bandwagon to try to save their own political butts. Then Pence quietly fills in for a few weeks.
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Old 07-17-2019, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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If trump is re-elected, the senate remains majority republican, and if republicans regain majority in the house, citizens will probably see infrastructure, immigration, and health care bills passed by congress and signed by the president. I also expect America will not become engaged in any wars and progress will be made in the middle east towards peace.
You're joking, yes? Repubs had both houses and couldn't get immigration or healthcare taken care of, and they spent so much time being yo-yoed around by their erratic leader that they never got near infrastructure.

I predict that the economy is going to take a nose dive here shortly, partly due to the trade wars, and when it does people are going to turn on Trump, his poll numbers will drop like a rock, and the Repubs are going to look at what's beyond 2024 and start thinking of saving their own skins and quit being sycophants to him. Meanwhile Li'l Kim will have his nukes and ICBMs to go along with them because Trump screwed up that whole thing, China will have replaced the US as the world's technological innovation powerhouse because Trump wants the US to be king of coal, the earth is getting warmer and warmer, the US air is getting dirtier and dirtier. Mexico hates us. The Brits hate us. Europe hates us. Our only allies are Saudi Arabia and Israel. But we still have our tax cuts. Oh yeah, those expire at the end of Trump's term, in 2025.
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Old 07-17-2019, 06:15 PM
 
Location: On the phone
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In my view, Trump will be re-elected and after five more years of this, he will walk away leaving a burning rubble behind him. The cyclical economy will stall at some point and based on the Senate map, the GOP will likely lose control in 2022. Democrats will delight in not giving Trump a SCJ during his last two years and Trump will lose it.

As Trump walks away, the country will be on the brink of civil war with both sides hating the other side with the heat of a thousand suns. I'm guessing his supporters will be highly motivated through the next election, then they will go quiet, not really caring anymore because their investment was in Trump the personality more than anything else. They love that he's an ******* and that he hates the other half of the country like they do.

Once Trump can no longer run, his supporter's anger will be exhausted while the anger on the other side will be unquenchable. We've never had anyone like Trump that truly delights in representing only his base and inciting anger. The desire for retribution will likely tear this country apart.

The debt will be through the roof, farmers, miners and rust belters will be in the same shape or worse, blue states will want full on revenge, refusing to so much as interview a person from a red state while our allies will have started working without us because we can no longer be relied upon.

What does the country look like AFTER TRUMP?
Scope out a cozy safe space, it’s going to be a bumpy ride for you.
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Old 07-17-2019, 06:15 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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It's because religion is a driving force behind the Trump phenomenon. Racist/alt right groups would have little power on their own without their alliance with the religious right. The solidarity of support from the religious right is why GOP politicians are so afraid to stand up to Trump.

There's something called Project Blitz right now which is a great threat to separation of church and state.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...eshape-america
You give the religious right too much credit, because of your own regional circumstances. There are millions of republican voters who view the religious right as a detriment to republican social policy. But they do make up a minority of republicans. Though they give us enough votes needed in order further conservative fiscal policies, so we tolerate them. I suspect there are even republicans that defend their social policies, simply as a reaction to the onslaught from the left. Most of us do not give them much thought. They are not the driving force behind everything the Republican Party does. It just seems that way to you because of your circumstances.
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