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Old 04-15-2008, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by TexianPatriot View Post
seriously. When our currency fails? When the bureaucrats socialize healthcare? When the supreme court rules the DC gun ban constitutional? When the government defaults on social security and medicare benefits? How much longer will we take violations of state's rights, private property rights, privacy rights, and our nation's sovereignty?

The founding fathers were up in arms over a small tax on imported tea. Where's the civil disobedience at? Where are the protests? Where's our Boston Tea Party? Is America too apathetic and/or spineless to make a stand? Will we submit to fascism and totalitarianism of the federal bureaucracy? Or will we rally as our founding fathers did in an effort for our God given liberty? Who will make a stand with me?
In a Democracy there should NEVER be an armed revolution. Vote!

 
Old 04-15-2008, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Tampa Bay Area, FL
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In a Democracy there should NEVER be an armed revolution. Vote!
Exactly. I think some people's comments on this thread are a very dangerous attitude.

Also, this sort of nonsense talk on the internet almost certainly will have the government's attention before you can snap your finger.

If you have beef with the way things are going in the US you have a couple options. You can move to another country, or you can organize a peaceful revolution that doesn't involve arms.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Exactly. I think some people's comments on this thread are a very dangerous attitude.

Also, this sort of nonsense talk on the internet almost certainly will have the government's attention before you can snap your finger.

If you have beef with the way things are going in the US you have a couple options. You can move to another country, or you can organize a peaceful revolution that doesn't involve arms.
Don't worry: Internet tough guys. They are a hoot.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Originally Posted by TexianPatriot View Post
seriously. When our currency fails? When the bureaucrats socialize healthcare? When the supreme court rules the DC gun ban constitutional? When the government defaults on social security and medicare benefits? How much longer will we take violations of state's rights, private property rights, privacy rights, and our nation's sovereignty?

The founding fathers were up in arms over a small tax on imported tea. Where's the civil disobedience at? Where are the protests? Where's our Boston Tea Party? Is America too apathetic and/or spineless to make a stand? Will we submit to fascism and totalitarianism of the federal bureaucracy? Or will we rally as our founding fathers did in an effort for our God given liberty? Who will make a stand with me?
The correct answer is "never". We have voting mechanisms at the local and national levels, and elections are not "fixed". You elect representatives to serve what you believe to be the national interest, but your opinions may not be in the majority.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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So, as long as the money was used to kill people, that's OK, but to keep elders from having to eat dogfood, that's a waste of money?
It's not about what's "right" it's about what the Constitution allows the Federal government to do. I don't see healthcare, college, food, and housing enumerated in the Constitution. The general welfare clause certainly was not intended to eat up over half the Federal budget with bureaucracy, agencies, and entitlements.

I'd look to each state's constitution to see what it says about that sort of thing.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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Originally Posted by Trabbz View Post
Exactly. I think some people's comments on this thread are a very dangerous attitude.

Also, this sort of nonsense talk on the internet almost certainly will have the government's attention before you can snap your finger.

If you have beef with the way things are going in the US you have a couple options. You can move to another country, or you can organize a peaceful revolution that doesn't involve arms.
I'm not sure what exactly is so dangerous about the attitudes expressed in this thread.

Why would the government be monitoring a message board anyway...?

Who ever heard of a peaceful revolution, sounds like an oxymoron to me. No one is saying we should start blowing things up...the question is more like "what would it take" for citizens to take arms.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 07:34 PM
 
Location: 'Burbs of Manhattan
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It's not about what's "right" it's about what the Constitution allows the Federal government to do. I don't see healthcare, college, food, and housing enumerated in the Constitution. The general welfare clause certainly was not intended to eat up over half the Federal budget with bureaucracy, agencies, and entitlements.

I'd look to each state's constitution to see what it says about that sort of thing.
Complaining about the government will get you no where.

I am sure the government doesn't want to subsidize the lives of so many people (the poor people). However, you -always- need to throw money at the poor people to make them shut up. Otherwise, they will try to revolt.

It's like you are being mugged by a man with a knife. Either you give in and give the guy your wallet, or you try to fight it out in and in return he slits your throat.

Replace the guy with the poor people, and replace you with the government. f you give them money, you leave with an empty pocket, they're happy. If you try to fight it (not giving them money), you lose in the end.

Pick your choice.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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Originally Posted by metropolistraffic View Post
Complaining about the government will get you no where.

I am sure the government doesn't want to subsidize the lives of so many people (the poor people). However, you -always- need to throw money at the poor people to make them shut up. Otherwise, they will try to revolt.

It's like you are being mugged by a man with a knife. Either you give in and give the guy your wallet, or you try to fight it out in and in return he slits your throat.

Replace the guy with the poor people, and replace you with the government. f you give them money, you leave with an empty pocket, they're happy. If you try to fight it (not giving them money), you lose in the end.

Pick your choice.
Well, most people lose when the fight the government. Honestly, do you think the government doesn't want to have all these people dependent on it? Do you think anyone employed by these agencies wants their job to go away? Socialistic systems are designed to have people dependent upon them...so the government is the one in power not the people.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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If you don't like the current leadership, then vote for new leadership. Look outside the two-party system. It really is that simple.
Dream on. We already tried that in 2004. It sure didn't work.
 
Old 04-15-2008, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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At least 2 things have to happen before there can be a revolt. First people have to get drafted against their wills and brought back in body bags. Second, unemployment has to go way up to say 20%. So there will be plenty of people with free time to start a revolt. Right now, way too many people are trying to not make waves so they can continue making a living and feed their kids while staying off welfare. After all, by far one of the biggest disgraces to be in, by far, in this country is to be on welfare. When it looks like their only hope in life is to go on welfare, that's gonna make a lot of people madder than hell and feel like revolting against the government.
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