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Old 11-27-2009, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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No the Subject is ARMED REBELLION, not Left or Right. Taking up Arms against the United States, Treason.
Taking up arms against the government. Very different than taking up arms against the US.

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When someone threatens force the time for discussion is over
You're absolutely right as we're in a stalemate right now with the government. We'll see who strikes first.

 
Old 11-27-2009, 08:35 PM
 
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Helping is not a problem. Being forced to help through taxation is different. Yes, it is un-American to force others to help you.
Therein lies the problem. The greed and self-centeredness that cripples our country prevents people from voluntarily helping others.

The only option we have is to force it from people. They have proven unwilling to voluntarily part with their wealth for the betterment of the larger good.
 
Old 11-27-2009, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Therein lies the problem. The greed and self-centeredness that cripples our country prevents people from voluntarily helping others.
yawn...

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The only option we have is to force it from people. They have proven unwilling to voluntarily part with their wealth for the betterment of the larger good.
The force is happening among the lower-middle and middle class as well. The rich are better able to protect their wealth from Uncle Sam.
 
Old 11-27-2009, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Taking up arms against the government. Very different than taking up arms against the US.



You're absolutely right as we're in a stalemate right now with the government. We'll see who strikes first.
US CODE: Title 18,2385. Advocating overthrow of Government

So you are advocating Armed rebellion?
 
Old 11-27-2009, 08:47 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Taking up arms against the government. Very different than taking up arms against the US.
Exactly how is that different? Do you think the 168 dead and 680 injured US citizens in the Oklahoma City federal building bombing thought there was a difference? The militia types aka domestic terrorists in this country are down right scary.

It's also curious as to why the founder of the militia movement, Norm Olson, moved his operations up to Alaska recently. He, you might remember, was Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols' mentor. Their governor up there at the time probably welcomed Olson with open arms.
 
Old 11-27-2009, 08:48 PM
 
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Therein lies the problem. The greed and self-centeredness that cripples our country prevents people from voluntarily helping others.

The only option we have is to force it from people. They have proven unwilling to voluntarily part with their wealth for the betterment of the larger good.
What ever happened to getting off ones arss an making their own way in life
 
Old 11-27-2009, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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US CODE: Title 18,2385. Advocating overthrow of Government

So you are advocating Armed rebellion?
The code does not apply toward resistance. It merely applies towards overthrowing the government. Defending one's homestead or property does not apply to this law.
 
Old 11-27-2009, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Exactly how is that different? Do you think the 168 dead and 680 injured US citizens in the Oklahoma City federal building bombing thought there was a difference? The militia types aka domestic terrorists in this country are down right scary.

It's also curious as to why the founder of the militia movement, Norm Olson, moved his operations up to Alaska recently. He, you might remember, was Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols' mentor. Their governor up there at the time probably welcomed Olson with open arms.
You have to look more clearly. Those advocating defending one's rights do not advocate blowing up buildings. However, if the government were to do something wacky like occupy a city and imprison the population into a work camp, blowing up a federal building would likely be an appropriate and rational response. It is no different than how the US would retaliate if the Soviets launched a missile attack. McVeigh was nowhere near right in doing what he did, as the government didn't do something like imprison or execute his entire family. It was an inappropriate response to his own misgivings.
 
Old 11-27-2009, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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What ever happened to getting off ones arss an making their own way in life
Like I said, it doesn't matter Right or Left, it's TREASON

They want to threaten Armed Rebellion the time for talk is over
 
Old 11-27-2009, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Like I said, it doesn't matter Right or Left, it's TREASON

They want to threaten Armed Rebellion the time for talk is over
You'll find that few are as hard core about laying down the hammer as you. You're the only one speaking about FEMA camps and soylent green. Your comrades in uniform would not feel the same way, as much as you may like to think. Also, rebellion is not illegal under the US code as far as I know, however revolution is.
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