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Old 02-28-2020, 08:14 AM
 
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Interesting idea. Not saying bad but the downsides I see would be:
1) Extreme penalties in contracts for infidelity like 100-0 asset splits and non visitation of children. When someone with no intention of cheating brings up the penalties are overly harsh, they are accused of wanting to cheat.
2) Filling court rooms up with long trials.
Its call a prenup.
There really isnt a written contract for marriage. Your vows are your verbal contract.
Now there is a contract for ending the marriage. The verbiage is available via. your state laws. Divorce contracts are negotiable as one size does not fit all.

 
Old 02-28-2020, 08:15 AM
 
Location: CA
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Marriage vows say to stay faithful, don't they? And clothes aren't natural either. But people should still wear them!
Well said.
 
Old 02-28-2020, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Marriage vows say to stay faithful, don't they? And clothes aren't natural either. But people should still wear them!

Do people always follow vows, laws, promises, etc.? No. Also, yes clothes, or at least some form of protection from the elements is natural. The ancients wore animal skins, fur and other forms of clothing.


I don't believe the percentages of any of the studies on affairs as I don't think people answer them honestly, even when anonymous, but I may be wrong.
 
Old 02-28-2020, 09:13 AM
 
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Do people always follow vows, laws, promises, etc.?.
No. Because laws aren't natural. So why do we get upset when someone breaks them and kills a bunch of people? JEEZ!
 
Old 02-28-2020, 09:25 AM
 
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. . . Your vows are your verbal contract. . . . The verbiage is available via. your state laws. Divorce contracts are negotiable as one size does not fit all.
Marriage vows are a legal verbal contract?

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I, ____, take you, ____, to be my lawfully wedded (husband/wife), to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part.
I don't think so.

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The verbiage is available via. your state laws.
You'd need to be a lawyer to figure out what they say so that's just a dodge. The real reason the most important contract most people will ever enter into isn't available in clearly written form to be read and understood before signing is because "marriage" would become nearly obsolete overnight it it were.

As for divorce contracts being negotiable, if you wait until a divorce to negotiate a contract it's already too late -- at least for one party to the unwritten contract.
 
Old 02-28-2020, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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People need to behave. Honestly, is it that hard to do?
 
Old 02-28-2020, 09:36 AM
 
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Monogamy is not natural.

If human beings accepted that, fewer people would be so pissed off and upset when their spouse "cheats" on them.
If it isn't natural for you, then practice polygamy - no one is stopping you.
 
Old 02-28-2020, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where everyone decides to do what they feel like.
 
Old 02-28-2020, 11:10 AM
 
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Marriage vows are a legal verbal contract?



I don't think so.



You'd need to be a lawyer to figure out what they say so that's just a dodge. The real reason the most important contract most people will ever enter into isn't available in clearly written form to be read and understood before signing is because "marriage" would become nearly obsolete overnight it it were.

As for divorce contracts being negotiable, if you wait until a divorce to negotiate a contract it's already too late -- at least for one party to the unwritten contract.
Did I say legal contract? Is a verbal contract even legal?

You can go on line and read divorce laws per state. It is really pretty self explanatory.
How do you expect a marriage contract to be detailed when things change throughout the marriage, income, jobs, assets, debt, children? Its a basic concept. 1 + 1 =1. Once married EVERYTHING acquired from that point on by either of you belongs to both of you jointly. When you divorce you decide how to divide it all equitably. Negotiation is part of the divorce procedure. Most people understand that.

Marriage isnt for everyone.
 
Old 02-28-2020, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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There are species of birds which mate with one male and nest with another male.
There are also species of birds that pair up and mate for life and if their mate dies, they typically do not find another.

Be a Cockatoo.

There is a reason people decided to partner up for life and for Christians a reason the Bible tells you to do so. - It makes your life better (if you do it right).
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