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Here's some real sciency stuff for you...from real science type folks
BTW.....more CO2 in the ocean makes plankton with calcium carbonate skeletons grow better and faster...just like plants
CO2 does not make the ocean acid....
Phytoplankton calcification in a high-CO2 world.
Abstract
Ocean acidification in response to rising atmospheric CO2 partial pressures is widely expected to reduce calcification by marine organisms. From the mid-Mesozoic, coccolithophores have been major calcium carbonate producers in the world's oceans, today accounting for about a third of the total marine CaCO3 production. Here, we present laboratory evidence that calcification and net primary production in the coccolithophore species Emiliania huxleyi are significantly increased by high CO2 partial pressures. Field evidence from the deep ocean is consistent with these laboratory conclusions, indicating that over the past 220 years there has been a 40% increase in average coccolith mass. Our findings show that coccolithophores are already responding and will probably continue to respond to rising atmospheric CO2 partial pressures, which has important implications for biogeochemical modeling of future oceans and climate.
LOL....I guess you'll just stay stupid and lead around by the nose then...won't you?
you link is another advocacy site BTW
So when you get backed into a corner and can't answer..you tell people to use Google...
When someone posts facts...you ignore them...and post a link to a advocacy site
Was there anything I posted that you don't think is a fact?...or is it way over your head?
Advocacy site?....Not hardly.
Ocean Scientists for Informed Policy (OSIP) is led by graduate Scripps Institution of Oceanography (SIO) at UCSD who want to see good science used to make well-informed policy decisions that affect the oceans. SIO is the world's preeminent center for ocean, Earth, and atmospheric research, teaching, and public education, with more than a century of exploration and discovery in basic research and global observations and applications.
Here's some real sciency stuff for you...from real science type folks
BTW.....more CO2 in the ocean makes plankton with calcium carbonate skeletons grow better and faster...just like plants
CO2 does not make the ocean acid....
Phytoplankton calcification in a high-CO2 world.
Abstract
Ocean acidification in response to rising atmospheric CO2 partial pressures is widely expected to reduce calcification by marine organisms. From the mid-Mesozoic, coccolithophores have been major calcium carbonate producers in the world's oceans, today accounting for about a third of the total marine CaCO3 production. Here, we present laboratory evidence that calcification and net primary production in the coccolithophore species Emiliania huxleyi are significantly increased by high CO2 partial pressures. Field evidence from the deep ocean is consistent with these laboratory conclusions, indicating that over the past 220 years there has been a 40% increase in average coccolith mass. Our findings show that coccolithophores are already responding and will probably continue to respond to rising atmospheric CO2 partial pressures, which has important implications for biogeochemical modeling of future oceans and climate.
If ocean acidification is possible...it dissolves calcium carbonate...acidification has to, that's the buffer.....kills corals and plankton with calcium carbonate structures by dissolving them.
I'm asking you to explain...in your words...not some link...how is that possible?
When corals with calcium carbonate skeletons evolved when CO2 levels were over 10 times higher....
.and the White Cliffs of Dover formed from plankton with calcium carbonate shells when CO2 levels were almost 3 times higher?
CO2 levels many times higher...could not have caused acidification...corals would not have evolved, they would have dissolved.....plankton with calcium carbonate shells would not have evolved, it would have dissolved
..and even if the had evolved....acidification would have dissolved any trace of them...because the only trace we have of them is their calcium carbonate skeletons
..and again, you ignored the link to the paper I posted...stating...that not only does elevated CO2 not cause acidification....plankton with calcium carbonate shells grows many times faster
Yes it is....they ignore any science that does not agree with their agenda
You have ignored every post I make...that proves you wrong...making this a one sided conversation
>>Was there anything I posted that you don't think is a fact?...or is it way over your head?
this attitude is a big part of the problem on both sides of the debate. one side says certain things dont fit their agenda, the other side says the same thing. thus the reality is that we are not getting the whole story here, and until things change, we wont be getting it anytime in the foreseeable future either.
sanspeur rejects things because he doesnt consider them credible either. the problem though is that credible evidence is often overlooked because of political beliefs. and this is why i advocate that ALL evidence be looked at with an open mind with NO agenda, and no prejudging.
We are entering a Grand Solar Minimum, which will cause cooler temperatures around the globe over the next fifty years. During that time, the notion of "global warming" will become a distant memory of a time when half of American fell for an absurd hoax, hook, line and sinker.
Maybe it already started last year. It's very interesting for how very long Oklahoma City has had below normal temperatures. Every month since July 2018 was below normal in temperatures! July 2019 is running below normal with Oklahoma City expecting a record low of 60 on Wednesday morning. But that is only the mid section of the country. Will this phenomenon become global in nature in coming years. We don't yet know.
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Maybe it already started last year. It's very interesting for how very long Oklahoma City has had below normal temperatures. Every month since July 2018 was below normal in temperatures! July 2019 is running below normal with Oklahoma City expecting a record low of 60 on Wednesday morning. But that is only the mid section of the country. Will this phenomenon become global in nature in coming years. We don't yet know.
I live in Southern Missouri, about 70 miles from Oklahoma. 2018 was the hottest summer we have had in several years. So far, 2019 has been the coolest summer in years. Just shows that every where is different. It was 58 here this morning, but not a record.
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