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Old 07-24-2019, 11:20 AM
 
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It was never up to him in the first place. why can’t you all understand that?
This hearing is a media event designed by Democrats to sway public opinion. Therefore, it's reasonable to make note that such statements do not help the Democrats' narrative, whether it was his job or not. All is fair in this event.

 
Old 07-24-2019, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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It's as though Republicans and Democrats watched two different hearings.

NO objectivity - just like the investigation.
 
Old 07-24-2019, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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This hearing is a media event designed by Democrats to sway public opinion. Therefore, it's reasonable to make note that such statements do not help the Democrats' narrative, whether it was his job or not. All is fair in this event.
Muller is following the rules if he doesn’t and they go after Trump when he’s out of office Trump has a better chance of walking. Even now they are trying to get Muller to trip up on other investigations.
 
Old 07-24-2019, 11:23 AM
 
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At the point, I hope Democrats vote to bring impeachment proceedings against the President so they can present all this "evidence" they have about his crimes to the forefront once and for all. Let them and their low-information base make absolute fools of themselves.
 
Old 07-24-2019, 11:23 AM
 
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It seems obvious Mueller was just the guy who signed off on the details. I wish someone would've asked him how much of the report did he actually write. I think he didn't bother with understanding the details because he wouldn't have to prove the findings in court.



There's a point I think people are missing concerning Strzok, Page, and the Democrats on his staff. If Trump or anybody else was charged under the theory of collusion, conspiracy to collude, obstruction of justice, or anything else relating to "election interference", all of this would be fodder for the defense attorney and would likely affect the case if it went to trial.


Ask any prosecutor. If you get arrested and the arresting officer gets fired prior to you going to trial, more than likely the prosecutor isn't going to pursue the case. Not because the evidence isn't there, but because they're not going to want that officer, their material witness, to have to get on the stand and have to address being dismissed.


So Strzok and Page are having an affair and get removed from the case once their text messages badmouthing Trump are found out. Mysteriously many of those texts get deleted. Strzok is fired from the FBI; Page quits (likely before being fired). The majority of the members of the investigative team have a direct professional/personal relationship with Hilary Clinton, Trump's opponent. Congress and the media don't have to care about that as it pertains to oversight, but in a criminal proceeding, all of that becomes relevant. Not just to a potential jury, but to the judge.



Mueller knows this. So that's why he wasn't willing to pull the trigger on obstruction of justice. It's curious Weismann has a history of putting people in legal jeopardy based on a broad theory of obstruction of justice -- this was mentioned during the House Judiciary Committee that a conviction he got was unanimously overturned by SCOTUS -- and now he's involved in an investigation where there's yet another broad interpretation of obstruction. But be that as it may, the whole mess between Strzok and Page and the potential conflict of interest with over a dozen other attorneys involved all becomes relevant to the case.
 
Old 07-24-2019, 11:25 AM
 
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The Democrats are attempting here today, as they long have, to conflate Russian interference and Trump collusion. Of course, they do this time and time again, conflating illegal aliens with immigrants for example, or health insurance with healthcare. Dang it, they just can't help themselves.
 
Old 07-24-2019, 11:26 AM
 
Location: DFW
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“You can charge 13 Russians, no one has ever heard of, you can charge all kinds of people around the president with false statements, but the guy who puts this whole story in motion, you can’t charge him?”
 
Old 07-24-2019, 11:29 AM
 
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It's as though Republicans and Democrats watched two different hearings.

NO objectivity - just like the investigation.
So you call Democrats who used the word "ouch" as now being Republicans!

I guess that Trump will not have any competition left for 2020 as Obama's close friends call this circus "ouch" for Democrats.
 
Old 07-24-2019, 11:29 AM
 
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That’s the thing Muller keeps pointing out that his hands are tied by the law of the land. Trump supporters are wanting him to break them.
What's the point in questioning a witness that can't or won't answer the relevant question ?

If the democrats were serious they wouldn't have a witness that is the equivalent of a potted plant ?
 
Old 07-24-2019, 11:30 AM
 
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What's the point in questioning a witness that can't or won't answer the relevant question ?

If the democrats were serious they wouldn't have a witness that is the equivalent of a potted plant ?
We all know the point - it's a circus designed to sway public opinion and discredit President Trump. Let them have their day, as it is not working. Everyone is at work in this booming economy.
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