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Old 08-16-2019, 10:58 AM
 
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Where is it? Because I only see Israel and the autonomous administrative districts of West Bank and Gaza.
Are you claiming that the people do not exist?

Poland went through that. It was always there but it was denied a government of it's own. The nation of people existed, but the state did not. The Polish people were right there dreaming of a freed homeland once again, and they had the inherent right of self determination. It was #13 of Wilson's Fourteen Points.

This situation in Palestine is really no different at all, none of your pretending will make Palestine go away.

 
Old 08-16-2019, 10:59 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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You have issues.

Anyway, until the state of Israel learns to treat the people it controls with respect it will always have critics. From inside and outside, from conservatives and moderates and liberals alike, all over the world. They need to get their act together. If they can't acknowledge the criticism and act like adults in the face of it they will lose respect from around the globe, and the circle of friends will shrink.

Israel is no sacred cow, it doesn't get a free pass, it will be held to the same standards all nations are held to.
Israel has anti BDS laws.
The US has anti BDS laws.

The House had to pass a resolution to get these 2 to shut up with their foul accusations against their own peers.

Maybe Omar's words are right..maybe Allah has awakened you.
Here are her words:
“Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel,”
 
Old 08-16-2019, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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“I feel confident that her words were not based on any anti-Semitic attitude, but that she didn’t have a full appreciation of how they landed on other people where these words have a history and a cultural impact that might have been unknown to her,” said Pelosi.
Making excuses for hatred, bigotry and/or racism?

I think these words might come back to bite her in the arse.
 
Old 08-16-2019, 11:01 AM
 
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You have issues.

Anyway, until the state of Israel learns to treat the people it controls with respect it will always have critics. From inside and outside, from conservatives and moderates and liberals alike, all over the world. They need to get their act together. If they can't acknowledge the criticism and act like adults in the face of it they will lose respect from around the globe, and the circle of friends will shrink.

Israel is no sacred cow, it doesn't get a free pass, it will be held to the same standards all nations are held to.
You referred to people with different political views as "deplorables" on another thread. Your liberalism in a showing, along with YOUR issues.

And Israel doesn't get a free pass. As many on this thread have pointed out, it is targeted for "special treatment" when other countries doing far worse barely get a word of criticism. Read Krauthammer's latest book, published posthumously, in which he explains why the double standard is a clear indication of antisemitism.

Krauthammer was a brilliant man (and a big Trump critic).
 
Old 08-16-2019, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What upsets me more is that liberals are defending the anti-Semitic women, largely because they a) are Muslim, and b) want to see Israel destroyed. Lord help us if a Democrat wins.
And yet, most of the media conglomerates, Hollywood studios and social media empires that seem to be censoring conservative voices are owned by Jewish people. Why would these owners allow liberals such a huge platform to spew their hate from?
 
Old 08-16-2019, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Democrats seem to be quite happy to force entire blocks of voters out of their party. They've been doing it for the last 30 years.


Now it's Jews.
You know, if you told me 10 years ago that I would be turning on the Democrat party and start voting for Republicans and Libertarians, I would have laughed in your face and told you were nuts. Well, I slowly started to lean towards Libertarian, and will vote for a moderate Conservative if the Libertarians are not available, and it's mostly now due to how nuts the Democrats have become. And, I often wonder, how do we not know that the elite have planned this, infiltrating the democrat party with people they know will start to divide the people and turn them away from the democrat party?
 
Old 08-16-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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Israel has laws regarding BDS supporters.
They upheld their laws.

Do you know that the US also has anti BDS laws ?

Omar accused US elected officials of pledging allegiance to Israel. She was asked by several other elected officials to retract her statement.

It ended up with the House passing a resolution on hate speech and Pelosi then tried to soften the situation.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/07/house-...ndemning-hate/
Rattled by a festering controversy over anti-Semitism dividing her caucus, House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi went out of her way to make excuses for Omar, a Somali Muslim from Minnesota who claimed lawmakers support Israel because they’re getting payoffs from Jewish lobbyists.

“I feel confident that her words were not based on any anti-Semitic attitude, but that she didn’t have a full appreciation of how they landed on other people where these words have a history and a cultural impact that might have been unknown to her,” said Pelosi.
It was even worse than that. Because Pelosi kowtowed to the blatantly antisemitic congresswoman and watered down the anti-semitism resolution, Omar released a press release saying how the House issued a resolution against anti-Muslim bigotry. She conveniently ignored that it was her own antisemitic tropes that led to the resolution in the first place!
 
Old 08-16-2019, 11:09 AM
 
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Israel has anti BDS laws.
The US has anti BDS laws.

The House had to pass a resolution to get these 2 to shut up with their foul accusations against their own peers.

Maybe Omar's words are right..maybe Allah has awakened you.
Here are her words:
“Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel,”
Allah is the Arabic word for God. It has the same Semitic root as 'El' in Hebrew.

The word 'Allah' is used in Christian churches in Arabic speaking lands. Most likely, Arabic script was devised by Christian monks in the early centuries.

Many Palestinians are Christians, and Israel makes no exception for the Christians there, it treats everyone badly.

BDS means Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions, nothing there about destroying Israel, but boy does it have some people's knickers in a twist. The policy worked on South Africa, a lot of Americans opposed it then too. This is no different. Justice will prevail eventually.
 
Old 08-16-2019, 11:12 AM
 
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And yet, most of the media conglomerates, Hollywood studios and social media empires that seem to be censoring conservative voices are owned by Jewish people. Why would these owners allow liberals such a huge platform to spew their hate from?
I'm not sure if "most" are owned by Jews, by certainly Jews have high representation in these areas. (They also have high representation in law and medicine, too.....it's an indication of drive, ability, and education.)

But to answer your question, I think that the extreme leftists, such as we see from Hollywood, are so blinded by their love of liberalism that it blinds them to the dangers of accepting antisemites among elected Democrats. The willingness of Democrats to accept and make excuses for antisemites in their ranks is worse than mystifying....it's downright frightening.
 
Old 08-16-2019, 11:17 AM
 
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Allah is the Arabic word for God. It has the same Semitic root as 'El' in Hebrew.

The word 'Allah' is used in Christian churches in Arabic speaking lands. Most likely, Arabic script was devised by Christian monks in the early centuries.

Many Palestinians are Christians, and Israel makes no exception for the Christians there, it treats everyone badly.

BDS means Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions, nothing there about destroying Israel, but boy does it have some people's knickers in a twist. The policy worked on South Africa, a lot of Americans opposed it then too. This is no different. Justice will prevail eventually.
MANY Palestinians are Christian? They are 99% Muslim in the West Bank, and 98% Muslim in Gaza.

BDS is about the wish to destroy Israel via a one-state "solution." A final solution, if you will.
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