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View Poll Results: For which crimes should the DP be “on the table?”
Child murder 1 1.82%
Any murder 9 16.36%
Child rape and any murder 15 27.27%
Any rape or murder 6 10.91%
Any violent crime 1 1.82%
Any violent crime or drug crime 7 12.73%
Never 16 29.09%
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-28-2019, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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Maybe he’s getting ready to prosecute some traitors....... when the IG and AG finish with their investigations. You know..... clearing out some cell space.
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Old 07-28-2019, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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One of the five is a white supremacist. Trump has effectively decided to kill a white supremacist and the left no doubt will call him racist.
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Old 07-28-2019, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Agree about the innocent people. The obvious cases should be a no-brainer.
No such thing as obvious cases. How many examples of obvious cases are there sitting behind bars that were later sent free?
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Old 07-28-2019, 04:37 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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At least 10 inmates have been wrongfully executed in the US..
Fine upstanding citizens, one and all, no doubt. Aspiring rappers who just fell in with the wrong crowd? On the cusp of turning their lives around?
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Old 07-29-2019, 03:30 PM
 
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The only time to take the life of another is when one is defending life or property. No one owns that life except that individual. A government that uses the death penalty is barbaric and cares not about the rights of the individual.
Think this guy deserves to live ?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-new...w-cut-18785484
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Old 07-29-2019, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Anyone who thinks Trump did this because he has thought it out and determined philosophically what is right, may want to look at a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.

I can think of two reasons the transparently fascist Trump did this.

One--the prisoners he is killing were prosecuted under a bill Biden signed, and Trump is hoping it will stir up discord against the guy who he fears can beat him.

Two--Trump has accused everyone who opposes him and their mothers of treason, punishable by execution. That evil POS is dreaming of having that power of threatening and actually putting people to death. His abuse of power is making him more dangerous and crazy by the day.
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Old 07-29-2019, 10:05 PM
 
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Child rape and treason ought to take care of things.

Swamp draining
On both sides.
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Old 07-30-2019, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I don’t want to pay to house them. Cheaper to execute them.
If I was the criminal, I would quite welcome the execution from being spared from not knowing another day of no freedom.
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Old 07-30-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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A total of 144 prisoners have been exonerated while on death row since 1973. No doubt a percentage of those who were executed were innocent of the crime they were executed for.

How many innocent people being sentenced to death is too many? One? 10? 144?
This. No one in this thread will address the fact that we have probably already executed people who were innocent of the crime they were executed for, and we have found a whole bunch more who never should have been on death row to begin with.

I guess killing off a few innocent people is okay now?

This is why I voted never in the poll.
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Old 07-30-2019, 11:16 AM
 
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Kill your babies, let murderers live. THAT make sense to you? Lol
Yes.

Because for me, the issue is 'what power do I want the government to have." Sometimes, you have to sacrifice for the sake of principle.

I believe the government should not have the power or authority to control reproduction. Upholding that principle means accepting that there will be abortions.

I believe the government should have not have the power or authority to execute citizens. Upholding that principle means accepting that truly vile people will walk the earth.

I believe in due process, that the accused has the presumption of innocence and the state has the burden of proof of guilt. Upholding that principle means accepting that guilty people will go free.

I believe the government should not have the power to commit citizens to mental institutions against their will. Upholding that principle means accepting that there will be mentally ill people who are homeless, or not getting the care they need.

Now, I don't think the consequences of upholding these principles should be ignored: for example, we should make every effort to prevent abortions from being necessary (through education and access to contraceptives) or fund programs that offer low or no cost mental health services, but I'm not willing to abandon my principles because the cost of upholding them is steep.

I'm not trying to change your mind on either topic, and you need not try to change mine. Let's assume we are both not interested in changing perspectives. I'm just trying to explain why it's not a contradiction to be in favor of keeping abortion legal and also opposing the death penalty.
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