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Old 07-27-2019, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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What is considered the single most important piece of environmental legislation, the 1990 Amendment to the Clean Air Act, was authored by the first Bush administration. What you perceive as being lax is being practical instead of being bat **** nuts.
Nixon, a Republican created the EPA in 1970, and the original Clean Air Act. Yet, the brain dead just want more government for the sake of more government. They just love to be controlled, as they actually need it to function.
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Old 07-28-2019, 04:21 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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50X Higher than average.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...special-report

"chloroprene was recorded at a staggering 755 times above the EPA’s guidance. Nearly 400 young children attend the school, breathing the air each day."

"Enforcement typically waxes under Democratic administrations and wanes under Republican ones. “[But] it’s much worse under Trump than it was under any previous Republican administration,” Subra says."

MAGA....kill more people for more profits.
Why isn't the EPA enforcing the law and why isn't the plant shut down due to massive law suits and compensation for those effected.
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Old 07-28-2019, 04:57 AM
 
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Why isn't the EPA enforcing the law and why isn't the plant shut down due to massive law suits and compensation for those effected.
Exactly. Why didn't MSM report on that? It would probably be more helpful to those citizens.
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Old 07-28-2019, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Why isn't the EPA enforcing the law and why isn't the plant shut down due to massive law suits and compensation for those effected.
Remember, we are a collection of States first. At least in theory. Each State has their own version of the EPA that mirrors the laws the EPA put in place, and often even have stricter environmental laws. They do MOST of the regulatory enforcement, but will partner with the Feds, and even Local government to layer the enforcement of penalties and fines. They ALL want their cut.

So, if there really is a lack of enforcement then at least two, possibly three Environmental Agencies are dropping the ball which is unlikely as they are motivated by the collection of fines $$$. So there is more to the story.
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Old 07-28-2019, 05:52 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Remember, we are a collection of States first. At least in theory. Each State has their own version of the EPA that mirrors the laws the EPA put in place, and often even have stricter environmental laws. They do MOST of the regulatory enforcement, but will partner with the Feds, and even Local government to layer the enforcement of penalties and fines. They ALL want their cut.

So, if there really is a lack of enforcement then at least two, possibly three Environmental Agencies are dropping the ball which is unlikely as they are motivated by the collection of fines $$$. So there is more to the story.
Even so, surely if there is a link between a chemical or nuclear plant you would have thought a large legal battle involving compensation would be headline news.

I mean you just need to look at the compensation being paid out in relation to weed killer Roundup or talcum powder, and the US is known for such big litigation cases. Surely if any link can be established lawyers would be heading for this town, and knocking on doors in a no win nofee basis.

Judge reduces $2-billion award in Monsanto Roundup cancer case to $87 million - Los Angeles Times

Lawsuits Against Bayer Are Sprouting Like Weeds - Bloomberg

Johnson & Johnson ordered to pay $4.7bn over talc cancer claims - The Guardian
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Old 07-28-2019, 06:17 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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OP, while I understand your concern, there are other FAR more egregious cancer hot spots. My kids attended a magnet program for the profoundly gifted in a NE Illinois public school district of about 17,000 students, grades K-8, hosted within a regular elementary school. My youngest had 12 kids in the same "year-class" in grades 3-5.5 (skipped a year half-way through).. 2 of those 12 kids died from cancer (forms of leukemia) before even graduating high school. That's 1 in 6. One child was Indian-American (Asian), and the other was Caucasian, so no discernible race factor. It was incredibly sad, and freaked us all out. Many of the parents of all the kids who went to that school told their pediatricians about the rate of incidence anomaly, and every little illness complaint brought intensively increased scrutiny. No one knew what was causing the anomaly. At least in the case you've posted about, the cause is known and people can therefore make an informed decision.
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