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Old 08-03-2019, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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In a decade or two we will all look back and laugh at how the Big Government Socialists used the AGW hoax to expand their power while convincing the masses that it was all about the climate. Meanwhile, we know that it has nothing to do with climate and protecting the earth.
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The “science is settled” liberal media don’t want people to know there are scientists, even award-winning ones, who dispute the idea of catastrophic global warming.

Because outlets ignore and censor such scientists, curious individuals must turn to other sources such as English journalist James Delingpole’s columns or podcast, the Delingpod. On the July 25 podcast, he interviewed award-winning, former National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) scientist Dr. Rex Fleming about his conversion from global warming alarmism to skepticism.

“Eventually I just read enough to realize it’s a totally wrong direction,” he said. “And so, in the past ten years, I’d say, I’ve been on the other side.” His shifting views made it far more difficult to be published though.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/bu...xEl_QZsFLHYBU4
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Old 08-03-2019, 01:32 PM
 
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The term "settled science" is at odds with the very essence of what science really is.

Skepticism and debate are not contrary to science. In fact they are the central essence of science.
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Old 08-03-2019, 01:34 PM
 
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In a decade or two we will all look back and laugh at how the Big Government Socialists used the AGW hoax to expand their power while convincing the masses that it was all about the climate. Meanwhile, we know that it has nothing to do with climate and protecting the earth.
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The “science is settled” liberal media don’t want people to know there are scientists, even award-winning ones, who dispute the idea of catastrophic global warming.

Because outlets ignore and censor such scientists, curious individuals must turn to other sources such as English journalist James Delingpole’s columns or podcast, the Delingpod. On the July 25 podcast, he interviewed award-winning, former National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) scientist Dr. Rex Fleming about his conversion from global warming alarmism to skepticism.

“Eventually I just read enough to realize it’s a totally wrong direction,” he said. “And so, in the past ten years, I’d say, I’ve been on the other side.” His shifting views made it far more difficult to be published though.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/bu...xEl_QZsFLHYBU4
The vast majority of climate scientists agree there is climate change. There's always going to be an outliar here and there. Doesn't negate the facts.
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Old 08-03-2019, 01:34 PM
 
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The term "settled science" is at odds with the very essence of what science really is.

Skepticism and debate are not contrary to science. In fact they are the central essence of science.

Yes, but tell that to Obama and Gore. They keep preaching that the science is settled.


People that claim "the science is settled" do so because they don't want to debate the facts. Their position is weak.
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Old 08-03-2019, 01:36 PM
 
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The vast majority of climate scientists agree there is climate change. There's always going to be an outliar here and there. Doesn't negate the facts.
I would say that 100% of all scientists agree that there is climate change.


In fact, I have never met anybody who denies climate change.
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Old 08-03-2019, 01:38 PM
 
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The Earth's climate has been changing since the Earth was first formed, and will continue to change until it is ultimately destroyed.

The only people who even come close to denying that the Earth's climate is changing are the AGW alarmists, who appear to believe that a static climate is somehow normal, achievable and sustainable.

It isn’t.
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Old 08-03-2019, 04:50 PM
 
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This Rex Fleming has a Linked-In page, the CV doesn't mention the NOAA at all.

Nothing there from his degree in 1970 to when he started his own company. Curious.

He has another page with a cv, which indicates that he left the NOAA in 1986. That was 33 years ago, when we were still trying to gather data on the phenomena.

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Old 08-03-2019, 05:09 PM
 
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We had a local television news channel interviewing a local citizen who graduated with a degree in meteorology. He talked about the heat wave and global warming. He works in DC at a company that records climate data for the government.
Somehow I think that had he said he was a skeptic or even had an open mind about its being real and what could be done to stop it he wouldn't have a job.
" If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say." Winston Zeddermore.
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Old 08-03-2019, 05:19 PM
 
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CEI Files Formal Complaint Regarding NASA's Claim of 97% Climate Scientist Agreement on Global Warming

“The claim that 97% of climate scientists believe humans are the primary cause of global warming is simply false,” said CEI attorney Devin Watkins. “That figure was created only by ignoring many climate scientists’ views, including those of undecided scientists. It is time that NASA correct the record and present unbiased figures to the public.”

https://cei.org/content/cei-files-fo...reement-global

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Information Quality Act Correction Request Regarding NASA’s Claim that 97 Percent
of Scientists Agree on Anthropogenic Global Warming

We ask NASA to determine that the claim that “[n]inety-seven percent of climate scientists agree
that climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities”
violates the IQA. As is shown below, that claim is not objective; it is neither accurate nor
reliable nor unbiased. This claim appears on the NASA web page titled “Climate Change: How
Do We Know?” among others.2


https://cei.org/sites/default/files/...cent_Final.pdf

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Improving Implementation of the Information Quality Act

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...04/M-19-15.pdf
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Old 08-03-2019, 05:23 PM
 
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In a decade or two we will all look back and laugh at how the Big Government Socialists used the AGW hoax to expand their power while convincing the masses that it was all about the climate. Meanwhile, we know that it has nothing to do with climate and protecting the earth.
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The “science is settled” liberal media don’t want people to know there are scientists, even award-winning ones, who dispute the idea of catastrophic global warming.

Because outlets ignore and censor such scientists, curious individuals must turn to other sources such as English journalist James Delingpole’s columns or podcast, the Delingpod. On the July 25 podcast, he interviewed award-winning, former National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) scientist Dr. Rex Fleming about his conversion from global warming alarmism to skepticism.

“Eventually I just read enough to realize it’s a totally wrong direction,” he said. “And so, in the past ten years, I’d say, I’ve been on the other side.” His shifting views made it far more difficult to be published though.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/bu...xEl_QZsFLHYBU4
EVERYONE will look back 100 years from now and find it hard to believe that people were so gullible, just as we look back in disbelief at those who believed in witchcraft.


A cursory look at the physics of the IR absorption spectrum of CO2 vs water, atmospheric saturation levels at different heights above ground level, the buffering action of the oceans, and the historic record of CO2 vs temperature would compel anyone with an ounce of sense that AGW is a hoax.


The problem is that AGW is perpetuated by politicians and journalists to a group of people who don't understand science at all, yet have convinced them that they are geniuses in physics for swallowing the hoax. These are the same people who believe in ghosts, space aliens, astrology, and luck.
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