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Old 08-06-2019, 05:04 AM
 
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Hong Kong is an example of exactly why the Founding Fathers got it right.

Is anyone watching the unarmed Democratic civilians in Hong Kong try to resist the heavily armed Communist Chinese military?
They are fighting for their lives, their future and whether they can be deported to Chinese Concentration Camps.

At some point I'll bet they wish they had a 2nd amendment, a well armed Militia and the ability to defend themselves against the boot of the Communist.

Could that ever happen here in the US?

Yes, yes it could. And that's why we need the 2nd and our guns. This is exactly why our FF gave us the 2nd and the right to bear arms. They knew there was a possibility one day a Government would try to take away our Democratic freedoms and possibly ship us off "Re-education Camps".

Would you ever fight for your freedom?
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:09 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Hong Kong is an example of exactly why the Founding Fathers got it right.

Is anyone watching the unarmed Democratic civilians in Hong Kong try to resist the heavily armed Communist Chinese military?
They are fighting for their lives, their future and whether they can be deported to Chinese Concentration Camps.

At some point I'll bet they wish they had a 2nd amendment, a well armed Militia and the ability to defend themselves against the boot of the Communist.

Could that ever happen here in the US?

Yes, yes it could. And that's why we need the 2nd and our guns. This is exactly why our FF gave us the 2nd and the right to bear arms. They knew there was a possibility one day a Government would try to take away our Democratic freedoms and possibly ship us off "Re-education Camps".

Would you ever fight for your freedom?
Thinking that the people of Hong Kong would be able to 'fight off' the 21st Century Chinese army is daft to say the least! Guess what? Its not the year 1800 anymore! lol. You need your "2nd amendment" (whatever the hell that means anyway) simply to keep your fire-arm related death rate 200 times more than it is in 'other' first world nations. I reckon with a bit more effort you could easily get to 100,000 deaths a year
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:15 AM
 
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Hong Kong is an example of exactly why the Founding Fathers got it right.

Is anyone watching the unarmed Democratic civilians in Hong Kong try to resist the heavily armed Communist Chinese military?
They are fighting for their lives, their future and whether they can be deported to Chinese Concentration Camps.

At some point I'll bet they wish they had a 2nd amendment, a well armed Militia and the ability to defend themselves against the boot of the Communist.

Could that ever happen here in the US?

Yes, yes it could. And that's why we need the 2nd and our guns. This is exactly why our FF gave us the 2nd and the right to bear arms. They knew there was a possibility one day a Government would try to take away our Democratic freedoms and possibly ship us off "Re-education Camps".

Would you ever fight for your freedom?


Why do we need the 2nd amendment? - Liberals


Liberals are constantly looking for ways to limit the rights of the individual and strengthen the central government. They are a totalitarian force that would exert their will over the rest of the population if left unchecked.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:15 AM
 
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All governments are capable of unjust aggression towards its citizens. Anyone who believes otherwise is a naive fool.

The United States government consistently does business (arms deals, aid, etc) with countries that unjustly arrests, detains, tortures and murders people because doing that business is in the interest of our government.

You can pretend our government will always do the moral thing regardless of all the history and evidence that government typically looks out for government first and people second.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:17 AM
 
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Thinking that the people of Hong Kong would be able to 'fight off' the 21st Century Chinese army is daft to say the least! Guess what? Its not the year 1800 anymore! lol. You need your "2nd amendment" (whatever the hell that means anyway) simply to keep your fire-arm related death rate 200 times more than it is in 'other' first world nations. I reckon with a bit more effort you could easily get to 100,000 deaths a year
How long has our military, with the best equipment in the world, been battling insurgents in Afghanistan?

Oh yeah, we are going on two decades.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:19 AM
 
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Why do we need the 2nd amendment? - Liberals


Liberals are constantly looking for ways to limit the rights of the individual and strengthen the central government. They are a totalitarian force that would exert their will over the rest of the population if left unchecked.
ANTIFA is a great example of people using violence to further a political (government) agenda.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:27 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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How long has our military, with the best equipment in the world, been battling insurgents in Afghanistan?

Oh yeah, we are going on two decades.
Yes quite right, after all the US is a LOT like Afghanistan - certainly have similar fire-arm death rates I imagine, I wish we in the UK didn't have to put up with the government 'pushing us around' at gunpoint.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:39 AM
 
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Yes quite right, after all the US is a LOT like Afghanistan - certainly have similar fire-arm death rates I imagine, I wish we in the UK didn't have to put up with the government 'pushing us around' at gunpoint.
If Jews had known then what they know now, would they have been as compliant in Germany in the 30's when they were being "temporarily relocated for their safety"?

I guess I should have first asked if you believe the holocaust occurred. If you don't believe it happened, let me know so I can ask a different question.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Thinking that the people of Hong Kong would be able to 'fight off' the 21st Century Chinese army is daft to say the least! Guess what? Its not the year 1800 anymore! lol. You need your "2nd amendment" (whatever the hell that means anyway) simply to keep your fire-arm related death rate 200 times more than it is in 'other' first world nations. I reckon with a bit more effort you could easily get to 100,000 deaths a year
Still mad about the 1776 thing Bro? Limeys crack me up
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:43 AM
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Location: Annandale, VA
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Thinking that the people of Hong Kong would be able to 'fight off' the 21st Century Chinese army is daft to say the least! Guess what? Its not the year 1800 anymore! lol. You need your "2nd amendment" (whatever the hell that means anyway) simply to keep your fire-arm related death rate 200 times more than it is in 'other' first world nations. I reckon with a bit more effort you could easily get to 100,000 deaths a year
They would at least be able to hold them off until an allied country came to their rescue. You assume the world would sit back an allow it to happen. It's not 1938 anymore.
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