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View Poll Results: Do we have a mental health or gun problem in this country?
Mental Health 57 72.15%
Gun 22 27.85%
Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-06-2019, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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I am in my late 40s and can say we did not have all these mass shootings 30+ years ago. they were extremely rare and guns were easier to get back then as well. What changed?

The way I see it, most of these mass killers have some sort of mental or coping issue and tend to lean toward the young side. I don't think they can cope with reality because they
have never been taught how.

All this talk of banning guns is not going to solve the problem.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:52 AM
 
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It's a gun issue. Mental health contributes to the number of suicides, notsomuch mass shootings. There are tons of articles about this online.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:53 AM
 
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It's a gun issue. Mental health contributes to the number of suicides, notsomuch mass shootings. There are tons of articles about this online.
Was it a truck issue in Nice?
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:27 AM
 
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We have both a mental health problem and a gun problem.
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Was it a truck issue in Nice?
The difference being European cities and police have improved security in cities and at events, and Anti-Terrorism meaures have been put in place.

In terms of the US, there is always a lot of big talk but very little action in terms of gun massacres, indeed evewn Trump's red flag scheme is unlikely to become law.
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Texas
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We have both, but neither is really the leading cause of these shootings.

The shooters are by and large not mentally ill.
Access to guns makes it way easier for these guys to wreak havoc, but not the cause of the sentiment.

This is a cultural problem for which there are no feasible laws to repair.
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I am in my late 40s and can say we did not have all these mass shootings 30+ years ago. they were extremely rare and guns were easier to get back then as well. What changed?

The way I see it, most of these mass killers have some sort of mental or coping issue and tend to lean toward the young side. I don't think they can cope with reality because they
have never been taught how.

All this talk of banning guns is not going to solve the problem.
The US gun homicide rate peaked in 1993, nearly 30 years ago.

What was far less common was spectacular mass shootings by a single shooter in a single location, usually with an assault type weapon. Each sensational mass shooting inspires the next. The acquisition of assault weapons for personal use surged once the ban expired in 2004. It surged again when Obama was elected. It surges after every sensational mass shooting.

Mental illness is an enormous spectrum.
People are medicated all over the world.
There are mentally ill people all over the world.
People play violent video games all over the world.
People watch violent movies all over the world.
Single parenthood is increasing all over the world.
Christianity is diminishing all over the world.

Yet, the US stands alone in the developed world in terms of sensational mass shootings.
It’s all about access.

Richard Paddock on the 32nd floor could not have shot 480 people with substantially less powerful firearms in a 10 minute span. Some of those shot were shot through other people.

In 1986, fully automatic weapons for the civilian market were banned in the US. While it is estimated there are about 638,000 fully automatic weapons in circulation, these weapons are not being used in the sensational mass shootings.

It’s all about access.
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:31 AM
 
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"We"? I dont have a problem with either.
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:34 AM
 
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It's a gun issue. Mental health contributes to the number of suicides, notsomuch mass shootings. There are tons of articles about this online.

The amount of laws governing gun sales and ownership has increased in the same time span these mass shootings have increased.
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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We have both, but neither is really the leading cause of these shootings.

The shooters are by and large not mentally ill.
Access to guns makes it way easier for these guys to wreak havoc, but not the cause of the sentiment.

This is a cultural problem for which there are no feasible laws to repair.
Yes they are mentally ill, both of these recent shooters are at the exact age that schizophrenia takes hold. I have a friend who this happened to and he heard voices in his head telling him to do things that normal people would not do.

However, I do think we have a problem with guns in this country.
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