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Old 08-08-2019, 10:16 AM
 
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Any logical person would understand what a non-citizen is and that the government can't (or knowingly shouldn't) hire illegal alien.
DH did some work for an NGO that used stimulus funds to provide energy savings for indigent seniors. They had to hire another payroll clerk to check I 9's every pay period. The contract also specified the employees and subs had to be USA citizens. They can do tiro the census, too.
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Old 08-08-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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No, this is NOT the Onion. This is for real.

The US Census Bureau will hire illegals...aka "non citizens" for the 2020 census.
They found a loophole and will call them "translators".

How's that for a slap in the face to American citizens who could have used that pay.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national...-ahead-of-2020

THE CENSUS BUREAU IS pursuing a legal loophole that its officials believe would allow them to temporarily hire non-U.S. citizens as part of its efforts to reach populations that are difficult to count, including in non-English speaking and immigrant communities.
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Some exceptions exist, however, that allow the agency to hire translators temporarily, as well as to hire people admitted to the U.S. for permanent residence who are seeking citizenship, to hire people admitted as refugees or granted asylum, and to hire people for up to 60 days on an emergency basis.

Temporarily employed translators fall under a so-called "excepted service provision," which gives each agency wide latitude to set its own standards for hiring based on what specific job it's trying to fill.
I love how everyone glossed over the words "as well as".

As if there are no U.S. citizens who could translate? BS. This is more word games to try to fool people. Screw the entire government. I'm sick of all of them.
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Old 08-08-2019, 10:23 AM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by TMSRetired View Post
No, this is NOT the Onion. This is for real.

The US Census Bureau will hire illegals...aka "non citizens" for the 2020 census.
They found a loophole and will call them "translators".

How's that for a slap in the face to American citizens who could have used that pay.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national...-ahead-of-2020

THE CENSUS BUREAU IS pursuing a legal loophole that its officials believe would allow them to temporarily hire non-U.S. citizens as part of its efforts to reach populations that are difficult to count, including in non-English speaking and immigrant communities.
Census officials subsequently denied that they have any plans to hire anyone who is in the country illegally.

"The Census Bureau only intends to temporarily hire permanent legal residents to act as translators," said Michael Cook, a division chief in the agency's public information office.


You should always read your link before you post it.
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Old 08-08-2019, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Census officials subsequently denied that they have any plans to hire anyone who is in the country illegally.

"The Census Bureau only intends to temporarily hire permanent legal residents to act as translators," said Michael Cook, a division chief in the agency's public information office.


You should always read your link before you post it.
Bahh then that would defeat the whole purpose of posting a Toll thread title that is a lie.
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Old 08-08-2019, 10:29 AM
 
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Here is an updated story with a subsequent response from the Census Bureau.
The initial story left the door wide open as to who was deemed "non citizen" and whether or not illegals counted.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national...-ahead-of-2020
Asked whether the bureau planned to employ people living in the country illegally, a spokesman said, "There is nowhere in our legal flexibilities that refers to people we could possibly hire as 'illegal.'" When pressed as to whether it's an option under the current law, the spokesman repeatedly demurred, saying that the term "noncitizen" encompasses "anyone who is not a U.S. citizen."

Census officials subsequently denied that they have any plans to hire anyone who is in the country illegally.
Give it is against the law to hire someone not authorized to work - I assumed the Census would not release a press release announcing they would be hiring 'illegals' to do the work.

It was obvious from the get go.

It was purposely spun by some to get conservatives all riled up about the consensus, illegals, etc.

This is the kind of fake news that we should all be fighting against.
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Old 08-08-2019, 11:11 AM
 
Location: FL
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No. I think they don't know the difference between a legal green card holder and an illegal alien. I might point out that Melania Trump was once a green card holder. In fact weren't all of Trump's wives immigrants?
Marla was American.
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Old 08-08-2019, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co. TN
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Here is an updated story with a subsequent response from the Census Bureau.
The initial story left the door wide open as to who was deemed "non citizen" and whether or not illegals counted.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national...-ahead-of-2020
Asked whether the bureau planned to employ people living in the country illegally, a spokesman said, "There is nowhere in our legal flexibilities that refers to people we could possibly hire as 'illegal.'" When pressed as to whether it's an option under the current law, the spokesman repeatedly demurred, saying that the term "noncitizen" encompasses "anyone who is not a U.S. citizen."

Census officials subsequently denied that they have any plans to hire anyone who is in the country illegally.
right, just change the word you refer to people from "illegal" to "non-citizen". Problem solved.
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Old 08-08-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: FL
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Did ya'll miss the part about the non citizen loop hole and non citizen encompassing anyone who is not a citizen. That would include illegal aliens.
Nothing specifically states they will not hire illegal aliens. Often its what is not said.
Census officials subsequently denied that they have any plans to hire anyone who is in the country illegally.

"The Census Bureau only intends to temporarily hire permanent legal residents to act as translators," said Michael Cook, a division chief in the agency's public information office.


Did you miss that part?
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Old 08-08-2019, 11:17 AM
 
Location: FL
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Bahh then that would defeat the whole purpose of posting a Toll thread title that is a lie.
Exactly!
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Old 08-08-2019, 11:20 AM
 
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I love how everyone glossed over the words "as well as".

As if there are no U.S. citizens who could translate? BS. This is more word games to try to fool people. Screw the entire government. I'm sick of all of them.
In some areas there may not be enough US Citizens available to do the job of translator...and green card holders are allowed to work in the USA.

You read too much between the lines.

I know in my community they can't get the people to work for the Census...it's not easy work -- and it doesn't pay well and it is temporary.

They have a limited pool to draw from in the first place.
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