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Old 08-08-2019, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co. TN
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Census officials subsequently denied that they have any plans to hire anyone who is in the country illegally.

"The Census Bureau only intends to temporarily hire permanent legal residents to act as translators," said Michael Cook, a division chief in the agency's public information office.


Did you miss that part?
Did you miss the part where they hum hawed around and said non-citizen includes anyone who is not a citizen.
Did they say specifically they would not hire illegal aliens?


"THE CENSUS BUREAU IS pursuing a legal loophole that its officials believe would allow them to temporarily hire non-U.S. citizens ...........and to hire people for up to 60 days on an emergency basis. Temporarily employed translators fall under a so-called "excepted service provision," which gives each agency wide latitude to set its own standards for hiring based on what specific job it's trying to fill..................
Asked whether the bureau planned to employ people living in the country illegally, a spokesman said, "There is nowhere in our legal flexibilities that refers to people we could possibly hire as 'illegal.'" When pressed as to whether it's an option under the current law, the spokesman repeatedly demurred, saying that the term "noncitizen" encompasses "anyone who is not a U.S. citizen.""


You think they will be straight forward and come out and say yes we may hire those here illegally?
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Old 08-08-2019, 11:22 AM
 
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No, this is NOT the Onion. This is for real.

The US Census Bureau will hire illegals...aka "non citizens" for the 2020 census.
They found a loophole and will call them "translators".

How's that for a slap in the face to American citizens who could have used that pay.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national...-ahead-of-2020

THE CENSUS BUREAU IS pursuing a legal loophole that its officials believe would allow them to temporarily hire non-U.S. citizens as part of its efforts to reach populations that are difficult to count, including in non-English speaking and immigrant communities.
From the article you linked to:

"Census officials subsequently denied that they have any plans to hire anyone who is in the country illegally.

"The Census Bureau only intends to temporarily hire permanent legal residents to act as translators," said Michael Cook, a division chief in the agency's public information office."
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Old 08-08-2019, 11:25 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Illegals do fall under "anyone who is not a citizen" don't they ?


https://www.theblaze.com/news/census...xt-years-count

A bureau spokesperson refused to directly answer whether the agency planned to hire illegal aliens, saying, "There is nowhere in our legal flexibilities that refers to people we could possibly hire as 'illegal,'" but they acknowledged that the term "non-citizen" includes "anyone who is not a U.S. citizen."


But, anyone "who is not a citizen" doesn't necessarily fall under the title of "illegal".
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Old 08-08-2019, 11:28 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Did you miss the part where they hum hawed around and said non-citizen includes anyone who is not a citizen.
Did they say specifically they would not hire illegal aliens?


"THE CENSUS BUREAU IS pursuing a legal loophole that its officials believe would allow them to temporarily hire non-U.S. citizens ...........and to hire people for up to 60 days on an emergency basis. Temporarily employed translators fall under a so-called "excepted service provision," which gives each agency wide latitude to set its own standards for hiring based on what specific job it's trying to fill..................
Asked whether the bureau planned to employ people living in the country illegally, a spokesman said, "There is nowhere in our legal flexibilities that refers to people we could possibly hire as 'illegal.'" When pressed as to whether it's an option under the current law, the spokesman repeatedly demurred, saying that the term "noncitizen" encompasses "anyone who is not a U.S. citizen.""


You think they will be straight forward and come out and say yes we may hire those here illegally?

Well, IF you think they will hire illegals, please explain what you think their plans are to get by the requirement for an I-9 form?

If you're really so concerned about working illegals perhaps you should be calling for raids on certain golf properties in the US.
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Old 08-08-2019, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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If all they need to apply is a DL then yes, illegals from CA can apply.


But it specifically says:


Census officials subsequently denied that they have any plans to hire anyone who is in the country illegally
Nonsense. I've worked as a temp Census worker in past years and they check your status and legal right to work.
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Old 08-08-2019, 11:54 AM
 
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This is what is confusing about some in the Right. Your in power but some still act like Obama is the President and the congress is completely under Democratic control.

For this to be true it would mean: A Republican President Trump, Vice President Mike Pence, Chief of Staff, Census Chief, White House Staff on several levels, Were ALL ok with illegal aliens working for the Federal Government.

I cannot figure out why the Party in power craps on its own Government and staff it controls? I get why the LEFT is pressing or goes overboard at times. They have no real power, just the House.


This is why I think people like Hannity are nuts. The President controls all the branches he complains about very night. He is literally making the case as to why the Department heads and appointees that Trump put in place suck. It is a backwards strategy that only works if you don't use your brain and apply the most basic of thought.
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Old 08-08-2019, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The article makes no mention of illegals. You do realize that someone can be legally in the United States and not be a citizen correct??
Thinking spouses and adult children of those with green cards and/ or temporary work visas are the most likely group to be recruited and given special limited purpose work authorization permits.
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Old 08-08-2019, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co. TN
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Well, IF you think they will hire illegals, please explain what you think their plans are to get by the requirement for an I-9 form?

If you're really so concerned about working illegals perhaps you should be calling for raids on certain golf properties in the US.
If you believe everything your government agencies say publicly thats fine. Me not so much.
All that is required for an I-9 is a DL and SS. Illegals use false documents all the time.

Not sure what makes you think I'm really concerned. Just commenting on a post same as you, pointing out how the article doesn't actually say specifically they will not hire illegals but skirts around the issue using vague language.
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Old 08-08-2019, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I’m ok with this if it helps get illegals counted. You know that false 11 million number is about 3x short
Who in their right mind would voluntarily disclose their status as an illegal immigrant on a Census form?

Census requires people to self identify. It does not validate.

How many people, legal or otherwise, do not respond to Census or lie?
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Old 08-08-2019, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Ah.... but you won’t know if they are illegals. Remember, that question isn’t allowed.
Because illegal immigrants will disclose this on a form?

Because a property owner is going to disclose there are 17 people ( regardless of legal status) living in the basement which is not zones for human occupation?
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