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Old 08-11-2019, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Last November an amendment to the Florida constitution was passed by two thirds of Floridians. The amendment restored voting rights to most people who were convicted of felonies but paid their debt to society.
Here is how Florida law makers reacted: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/o...rida-vote.html
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:18 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Default Florida Republicans Round End Democracy

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Last November an amendment to the Florida constitution was passed by two thirds of Floridians. The amendment restored voting rights to most people who were convicted of felonies but paid their debt to society.
Here is how Florida law makers reacted: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/o...rida-vote.html

Yep, I voted against it. They knew they would lose their voting rights if caught and did it anyway. And if they didn't know, they should have. All the repubs did was make it so they actually ''paid their debt to society.''

It's about time we cared about the victims of crime, and their rights.
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:24 AM
 
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Great all the pedos will be voting again...
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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OP, you and the NYT should quit pushing out falsehoods designed to stir division and create hostility toward Republicans.

Here is the text of the amendment as passed by over 64% of Florida voters last year:

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No. 4 Constitutional Amendment Article VI, Section 4. Voting Restoration Amendment This amendment restores the voting rights of Floridians with felony convictions after they complete all terms of their sentence including parole or probation. The amendment would not apply to those convicted of murder or sexual offenses, who would continue to be permanently barred from voting unless the Governor and Cabinet vote to restore their voting rights on a case by case basis.
Paying court required restitution IS part of completing "all terms of their sentence." Thus, the enacting legislation passed by the GOP Florida majority is wholly consistent with the Amendment. The real disgrace is that Democrats didn't vote for the legislation, which shows their utter contempt for what Florida voters passed.

I'm really sick of the intentional misleading on these issues. I'll give you a pass, but the NYT knows better and is, instead, trying to inflame tensions.
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Last November an amendment to the Florida constitution was passed by two thirds of Floridians. The amendment restored voting rights to most people who were convicted of felonies but paid their debt to society.
Here is how Florida law makers reacted: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/o...rida-vote.html
Why are Republicans so afraid of people voting. Well, for starters, the fact that these felons already show poor decision making choices is one of them, don't need their poor choices to reflect on voting for bad candidates that can destroy a community. Second, look what voters did to the majority of the democrat cities like Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago to name a few. Nothing but crime infested hot zones where only the rich can own a home.

Basically, if you aren't capable or trustworthy enough to own a gun, then you are not capable or trustworthy to vote or take care of children. End of discussion.
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:45 AM
 
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Why are Republicans so afraid of people voting. Well, for starters, the fact that these felons already show poor decision making choices is one of them....

I think it's simpler than that. It's simply a mechanical vote counting thing.

I expect that felons are overwhelmingly Democratic voters. Illegal aliens are overwhelmingly non-Republican (only 4% identify as Republicans according to Pew) and so should be given the vote. Legal immigrants vote Democrat so we need more. Younger people tend Democrat so we need to push the voting age down. People on the fringes of society vote Democrat so we need to bus them around to polling stations or help them move their hands on a voting form.

it's all self-interested groups who want a bigger slice of pie.

In an ideal world for Republicans, I suppose that a good voter roll would consist of land owning white gentleman farmers.

It's too early to tell which approach produces a country that survives in the truly long run. For all I know, women's suffrage produces political systems that fail early, somebody will see the result in a hundred or two years.
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Old 08-11-2019, 10:16 AM
 
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Last November an amendment to the Florida constitution was passed by two thirds of Floridians. The amendment restored voting rights to most people who were convicted of felonies but paid their debt to society.
Here is how Florida law makers reacted: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/o...rida-vote.html
What does "Round End Democracy" mean?
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Old 08-11-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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If you committed a crime you should have to fulfill all terms of your sentence. That includes time in prison and any finical obligations. Don't like it? Then don't commit crimes!!
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Old 08-11-2019, 10:23 AM
 
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They did the same thing to medical Marijuana under dick Scott
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Old 08-11-2019, 10:41 AM
 
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This is their strategy to hold onto power. As America becomes more diverse and more progressive, republicans will accelerate their abandonment of the democratic process.
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