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Old 08-12-2019, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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They're not in danger from Epstein anymore and they are not in danger of some phony right wing nonsense conspiracy theory.

 
Old 08-12-2019, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I say no. It's hearsay now. With Epstein gone, so did any chance at some sort of proof.
Epstein was very social and knew thousands of people all over the world. Likely most did not engage in his shady side. Most took a giant step away from him in 2004-5 when he was first investigated. He has been increasingly isolated ever since.

Epstein lived life on his terms. what did he have to look forward to? A slice of frozen pumpkin pie on Thanksgiving

He could not be forced to testify nor was there any reasonable certainty he would be truthful about any of it. Do you think you would have believed his testimony of say, he implicated Trump?

His death is meaningless.

I view Epstein’s death as one big fat FU from him.

He could have had tapes, thousands of tapes, that could withstand any test of authenticity. Such tapes could be in vaults and/ or clouds anywhere in the world, under the control of those he trusted. Release can certainly occur post humous.

Might be a swell way to acknowledge his birthday, every year for decades.

Imagine knowing it is only a matter of time before your tape is released.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 02:18 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Epstein was very social and knew thousands of people all over the world. Likely most did not engage in his shady side. Most took a giant step away from him in 2004-5 when he was first investigated. He has been increasingly isolated ever since.

Epstein lived life on his terms. what did he have to look forward to? A slice of frozen pumpkin pie on Thanksgiving

He could not be forced to testify nor was there any reasonable certainty he would be truthful about any of it. Do you think you would have believed his testimony of say, he implicated Trump?

His death is meaningless.

I view Epstein’s death as one big fat FU from him.

He could have had tapes, thousands of tapes, that could withstand any test of authenticity. Such tapes could be in vaults and/ or clouds anywhere in the world, under the control of those he trusted. Release can certainly occur post humous.

Might be a swell way to acknowledge his birthday, every year for decades.

Imagine knowing it is only a matter of time before your tape is released.
None of those tapes will ever surface.
These are high ranking global elite involved in pedophilia.
Not just a simple "sex scandal" here.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Only the ones accusing Trump should worry--as the DOJ will cover for him, though he has been known to write hush money checks while in office. He'll just need a new bag man, like Miller or Junior.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 02:27 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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What about Epstein's assistant Ghislaine Maxwell? She knows too much. I can see her "committing suicide". If she's smart she will ask for government protection and then testify to get a shorter sentence.
Wasn't Epstein under "government protection" ?
 
Old 08-12-2019, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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No, just anyone part of the possible coverup of his supposed suicide. Guard, coroner etc
The FBI should monitor the bank accounts and spending patterns of the guards in the prison for the next year to see which one was complicit in permitting this to occur.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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The FBI should monitor the bank accounts and spending patterns of the guards in the prison for the next year to see which one was complicit in permitting this to occur.
I'm sure no one had thought of that yet
 
Old 08-12-2019, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I heard a parody on the Limbaugh show of Bill Clinton expressing sadness for Epstein's death but one line stuck out -- "We know your names and addresses... we hope you will spend the rest of your lives in silent contemplation." Satire, not verbatim but basically a veiled threat. It reminded me of what Hillary had told Juanita Broaddrick so she'd keep her mouth shut.

Will Epstein's victims and employees start having accidents and committing suicide? Or if they have already given sworn testimony/depositions would they be out of danger?
I think any of the victims claim to have information on Bill, they will soon thereafter have some type fatal accident.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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None of those tapes will ever surface.
These are high ranking global elite involved in pedophilia.
Not just a simple "sex scandal" here.
Depends on if there are tapes, the number of copies, where and who has access.

Pedophilia is sex with prepubescent children which does not seem to be what was going on here.

The teen victims were recruited and groomed to provide sexual services in exchange for money. Best I can tell, none were physically held against their will. Some became recruiters of other girls.

The world is full of males who seem to prefer young sexual partners to those more age appropriate. Most probably don’t act on it because of fear of consequences or because they don’t have easy access. Then again age of consent is a variable in the world as it once was, in the US.

Other than law, nothing much distinguishes a 17 vs an 18 year old.

No doubt there will be a pile on of alleged victims engaging in civil suits against the estate and no doubt, some will be fakes.

I am not defending the POS. Just looking at it from all perspectives.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 03:27 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Depends on if there are tapes, the number of copies, where and who has access.

Pedophilia is sex with prepubescent children which does not seem to be what was going on here.

The teen victims were recruited and groomed to provide sexual services in exchange for money. Best I can tell, none were physically held against their will. Some became recruiters of other girls.

The world is full of males who seem to prefer young sexual partners to those more age appropriate. Most probably don’t act on it because of fear of consequences or because they don’t have easy access. Then again age of consent is a variable in the world as it once was, in the US.

Other than law, nothing much distinguishes a 17 vs an 18 year old.

No doubt there will be a pile on of alleged victims engaging in civil suits against the estate and no doubt, some will be fakes.

I am not defending the POS. Just looking at it from all perspectives.
well there is one who lived on the island. They took her passport.
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