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Old 08-13-2019, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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What melts ice? Is this enough proof for you?

https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
If every bit of artic sea ice melted, how much would sea level rise? The answer is not at all because the ice is floating on water and if melted would take up the same volume as the ice. Is that enough proof?

 
Old 08-13-2019, 09:42 PM
 
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If every bit of artic sea ice melted, how much would sea level rise? The answer is not at all because the ice is floating on water and if melted would take up the same volume as the ice. Is that enough proof?
I see the issue. If ice melts in the arctic, why not in Greenland or Antarctica.

Plus, you get the problem of the color of the polar area going from white to a darker color.

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Old 08-13-2019, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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If every bit of artic sea ice melted, how much would sea level rise? The answer is not at all because the ice is floating on water and if melted would take up the same volume as the ice. Is that enough proof?
Sea level rise is far more due to the rise in temperature of the ocean than the melting of ice. The ocean expands in volume and since it is constrained on the sides and bottom, it can only go up.
 
Old 08-13-2019, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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If every bit of artic sea ice melted, how much would sea level rise? The answer is not at all because the ice is floating on water and if melted would take up the same volume as the ice. Is that enough proof?
Good grief, do you think I did not know that? The point of my post was this question "what melts ice" The answer is heat...More ice is melting each year and the northwest passage is now open again....

A better question for you is...If all the ice in Greenland melted how much would sea level rise?

Maybe you should read this... https://www.politifact.com/facebook-...ents-icebergs/
 
Old 08-13-2019, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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How do we know that recent CO2 increases are due to human activities? « RealClimate


It's pretty well documented how much fossil fuels we burn. And the laws of chemistry are irrefutable - burning them makes CO2. There is also irrefutable proof that CO2 is a greenhouse gas.
What percentage of total yearly CO2 emissions is from human activity, vs natural occurrences?
 
Old 08-14-2019, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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The answer is at your finger tips...google...

Ice cores from both Antarctica and Greenland show that the last ice age started to become milder 19.000 years ago, completely in accordance with increased solar radiation from the earth’s favourable orientation in its orbit around the sun.

It takes circa 10.000 years for an ice age to gradually come to an end

https://www.nbi.ku.dk/english/scienc...rgsmaal_svar1/
Yes, you are correct!

It was not increased CO2 that caused that ice to melt.

Relative to our experience, this melting, warming if you like, was a dramatic climatic change that occurred over an extended period of time.

Other, less dramatic, changes to the climate have occurred many times within these full-length glaciation cycles.

Within the modern record we have witnessed the Medieval Warm Period.

This was followed immediately by the Little Ice age.

So, the question becomes, what is the correct temperature?

That is, assuming one exists.

If as claimed, the surface temperature has increased by a degree or two over the last 140 years, how can we know for sure whether the increase (assuming it really increased) is unnatural and the result of increased CO2 or normal temperature variations that take place over decades and centuries.
 
Old 08-14-2019, 07:27 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Any new insane denial tricks institute for the conservative studies shared with faithfuls? If you crap in the room you live, you'll affect livability of your room.
Someone needs to tell San Francisco, Los Angeles, Portland, Seattle, and other poop-filled west coast towns about your theory.
 
Old 08-14-2019, 07:35 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Why are leftists so irrationally emotional when it comes to society?

This AGW war on CO2 is parallel to China's war on SPARROWS!

A great leap into STUPIDITY!
They're irrationally emotional when it comes to anything. They're emoters, not rational thinkers. It's a puerile cognitive state, much like a two-year-old throwing a temper tantrum when he doesn't get his way.
 
Old 08-14-2019, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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my point!

Lots of things cause the temperate to change.

Co2 doesn't appear to be a significant player.

Where i am seated, here in se michigan, glaciers extended straight up more than a mile.

That's a lot of ****ing ice!

It was also less than 18,000 years ago - a blink of an eye in geological time.

so, what caused that ice to melt?
co2.
 
Old 08-14-2019, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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What percentage of total yearly CO2 emissions is from human activity, vs natural occurrences?
A better question is, "What percentage of atmospheric CO2 is from human activity?"

The answer is about 50%.
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