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Given these connections Im surprised Epstein ever saw a jail cell, but the article really puts G. Maxwell as the master mind behind this whole 'fiasco', She was just keeping Epstein happy and content, but he is gone now, she is still totally free, the American media or police will not dare talk about her.
These girls were teens and not mere children, so it's not really a paedophile ring.
Also Ghilaine Maxwell had a list of masseur that Epstein used, and showed Virginia Roberts exectly what was involved and do you really think that these girls were that naive that they took jobs massaging very wealthy old businessmen at Mar-a-Lago resort, and were flown around on private jets yet didn't expect to have to do extras in return. I also doubt many of these girls were forced.
Epstein's big mistake was not using girls a year or two older, or it would all have been perfectly legal in most countries and there are even Escort websites.
Virginia Roberts was 17 when she claimed to have had sex with Prince Andrew, the legal age for consent in the UK is 16. Although the age to work as an Escort is 18, so clearly Ghislaine should have only been employing girls over 18.
However their is no indication that Roberts and the other girls weren't complicit, and Escort work which usually involves sex is peffectly legal, whilst it's difficult for any client to tell if a girl is 17 or 18, and most Juries would also find it difficult.
In Great Britain (England, Wales and Scotland), prostitution itself (the exchange of sexual services for money) is legal, but a number of related activities, including soliciting in a public place, kerb crawling, owning or managing a brothel, pimping and pandering, are crimes.
Although the age of consent is 16 throughout the United Kingdom, it is illegal to buy sex from a person younger than 18, and it's also an offence to pay for sex with a prostitute or escort who has been "subjected to force" and this is a strict liability offence.
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Another thing that really surprised me, they talked alot about how this ring operates, and based off what they are saying, apparently there are NUMEROUS US businessmen, politicians, military contractors, entertainers, etc, that rely on this ring to provide 'services'(underage kids) to them...I would think the US media would care very much about exposing that, but I guess not.
Of course not. Who do you think owns the media conglomerates, and who are their friends and relatives?
This isn't just a U.S. thing either. Look into Jimmy Savile or just do a search for pedophile rings in England and the Dutroux Affair in Belgium. Dutroux was an unemployed electrician yet owned seven houses. Connect the dots.
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Of course not. Who do you think owns the media conglomerates, and who are their friends and relatives?
This isn't just a U.S. thing either. Look into Jimmy Savile or just do a search for pedophile rings in England and the Dutroux Affair in Belgium. Dutroux was an unemployed electrician yet owned seven houses. Connect the dots.
It is well documenyed that Cyril Smith was a peadophile, however in terms of allegations made about other parliamentary figures they have not been proven and there is no siugestion that Thatcher's Gvernment was covering op paedophilla.
Earlier this year, Carl Beech was jailed for 18 years after allegations he made up about senior political figures were proved to be nothing but fiction, and Tom Watson the MP who made the allegations in the House of Commons stood down from Parliament, and offered an apology.
The much criticised police Operation Midland, has been deeply embarrassing for Scotland Yard and proves you can't always just take someone word as there are plenty of liars and fantacists out there.
Sadly Lord Bramall, former Head of the British Army and who stormed the beaches of Normandy on D-Day was one of those falsely accused, however he did clear his name shortly before he died.
BTW, there is speculation that Epstein had support from the Mossad, which would explain how he seemed to be living well above his means, and would also explain why the sex ring quickly dropped off the radar. It's an interesting idea, which is why I bring it up, but of course I have no clue whether it's true or not. There are any number of foreign interests, public and private, who would have been very interested in the sex ring and would have been willing to help him maintain his preferred lifestyle in exchange for what he knew.
That's what I don't get either. with the kind of money these people have, 18-22 college girls are available at your leisure..there are even web sites devoted to these kinds of hook ups. Are you really that impulsive that you need a 16 year old? Why would you risk jail time for this, even if you think you are too connected to have law enforcement touch you. I guess it's the whole "forbidden fruit" angle.
Well, Im talking the guys that desire those YOUNGER than 14-16, most of these guys made it known they wanted them 'as young as possible' and there was no cut off age, 8-10 yr old seems to be the age range they prefer for some reason.
Thats why I said there has to be 'something else' involved in this, (other than a sexual fetish), as a young guy, I remember sleeping around quite a bit, but I preferred girls in their early 20s, they are fully developed at this age and generally look GREAT, but they are also experienced, they know how to have sex, its quite sick to think about, but I cannot figure out what would be pleasurable about sex with a kid that young, their bodies are not even developed for it yet, so I cannot imagine its pleasurable for either person.
Well, Im talking the guys that desire those YOUNGER than 14-16, most of these guys made it known they wanted them 'as young as possible' and there was no cut off age, 8-10 yr old seems to be the age range they prefer for some reason.
Thats why I said there has to be 'something else' involved in this, (other than a sexual fetish), as a young guy, I remember sleeping around quite a bit, but I preferred girls in their early 20s, they are fully developed at this age and generally look GREAT, but they are also experienced, they know how to have sex, its quite sick to think about, but I cannot figure out what would be pleasurable about sex with a kid that young, their bodies are not even developed for it yet, so I cannot imagine its pleasurable for either person.
the sick truth is that it seems to be about destroying innocence. The only explanation I can have for that is that someone themselves had their innocence destroyed...the cycle of abuse.
Bill Clinton traveled 27 times with him on his private jet to his island, that sure is a lot. Personally, I don't think I've been to any vacation site 27 times in my life.
Trump being in the inner circle of the wealthiest New Yorkers met him at some New York parties but denied any further relationship than being at the same event 25 years ago.
Sooo.. there is a huge disparity in relationships.
Trump also denied sleeping with a porn star, We all know how that turned out!
What does President Trump have anything to do with Epstein or the Clintons? We should leave the President out of this.
Trump was once a close friend of the Clintons. They sat on the front row when he married Melania. Trump and Epstein were mentioned as co-conspirators in a suit by a young girl alleging that Trump raped her at Epstein's home. Clinton is obvious, since he was on the manifest for Epstein's Lolita Express.
It isn't just associated with the wealthy... it's in all classes of society, but we never hear about it.
They have perverted sexual interests and lust for kids. Ultimately it's sin that has been passed down, and it is in everyone.
Not sure what you mean by something more...
Im not exactly sure, thats why I was intentionally as vague as possible.
It has to be something more than simple sexual fetish, when its the most powerful people on the planet that are involved, and Im not really even talking about the likes of Trump or even Epstein, they are peasants compared to some of the people at the top of this global ring. (the Rothschild family, Royalty).
Ive read various conspiracy theories on some of these powerful families being involved in some VERY dark and evil stuff, some of it pushes into the supernatural realm even, Im not saying I believe everything that is said, but I think its possible some of the 'conspiracy theories' may be true.
Guys like Epstein, those who like to sleep around with alot of women, they are VERY sexually experienced, I cannot figure why they would desire a kid of 8-10 yrs old, when their bodies are not even developed and they have NO sexual experience at all...in other words, how could this be pleasurable for someone so experienced? Doesnt make sense, if it was purely sex, they would be going for 17-23 yr olds.
Thats really why I suspect there is something more to this.
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