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Old 08-16-2019, 06:12 AM
 
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Due to years of criminal justice reform talk the American people have a very warped idea of who is in prison. They think a full 50% of prisoners are in for drug offenses when in reality it's only 15%! 50% of prisoners are locked up for violent crimes.

This article has all the correct statistics. The difference is the writer is sympathetic towards violent criminals while I hate their guts. If I could have just one wish it would be cruel and unusual punishment for violent criminals with widespread use of the death penalty. This would both give the criminals the punishment they deserve as well as improve the human race. With each executed criminal the balance of humanity becomes more civilized.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-reform-227623
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Old 08-16-2019, 06:50 AM
 
Location: NY
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Due to years of criminal justice reform talk the American people have a very warped idea of who is in prison. They think a full 50% of prisoners are in for drug offenses when in reality it's only 15%! 50% of prisoners are locked up for violent crimes.

This article has all the correct statistics. The difference is the writer is sympathetic towards violent criminals while I hate their guts. If I could have just one wish it would be cruel and unusual punishment for violent criminals with widespread use of the death penalty. This would both give the criminals the punishment they deserve as well as improve the human race. With each executed criminal the balance of humanity becomes more civilized.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-reform-227623


Why we as a country ever moved away from institutionalizing those that are a threat to our society is beyond me.
How many nut jobs are walking the streets? You have to constantly have eyes in the back of your head.
Time to reconstruct mental institutions...................

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Old 08-16-2019, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Boston
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many more should be in prison.
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Old 08-16-2019, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The State can't define what a crime really is or else it would have to lock itself up.
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Old 08-16-2019, 06:56 AM
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The State can't define what a crime really is or else it would have to lock itself up.
"Americans have been brainwashed..." - yes they have
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Old 08-16-2019, 06:56 AM
 
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Okay, so lets release the 15% to make room for the politicians!
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Old 08-16-2019, 06:57 AM
 
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Why we as a country ever moved away from institutionalizing those that are a threat to our society is beyond me.
How many nut jobs are walking the streets? You have to constantly need eyes in the back of your head.
Time to reconstruct mental institutions...................
The psychiatric field decided in the 80s that it would be better to try to allow these people to live on their own and control their conditions with medication. A well-intentioned attempt, but a complete failure, resulting in the massive homelessness and many crime issues we have seen since then.

We need to, as a nation, focus on mental health before all else, which would help with all other social ills we see now. Unfortunately, many people need to be locked up in institutions for their own good and the good of all of us.
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Old 08-16-2019, 06:59 AM
 
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The other thing that is not talked about is how many of these perp(s) had violent crimes that they have plead down. Murder plead to manslaughter. Felony assaults plead to misdemeanors. Rapes plead down to sexual misconducts. Auto theft plead down to possession of stolen property. Burglaries plead down to tresspassing.
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Old 08-16-2019, 07:07 AM
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The psychiatric field decided in the 80s that it would be better to try to allow these people to live on their own and control their conditions with medication. A well-intentioned attempt, but a complete failure, resulting in the massive homelessness and many crime issues we have seen since then.

We need to, as a nation, focus on mental health before all else, which would help with all other social ills we see now. Unfortunately, many people need to be locked up in institutions for their own good and the good of all of us.
Well, no. Because "the experts" cant be trusted to determine who should be locked up against their will or at min. define what a mental illness or mental health are. And really the discipline of psychiatry is largely a modern day govt creation. Do you want politicians determining or defining mental health?
Soviets, Nazis, et al., judiciously employed the term "mental illness" as a pretense to punish, or dispose of political rivals, so you might want to think it through a little better.
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Old 08-16-2019, 07:10 AM
 
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The psychiatric field decided in the 80s that it would be better to try to allow these people to live on their own and control their conditions with medication. A well-intentioned attempt, but a complete failure, resulting in the massive homelessness and many crime issues we have seen since then.

We need to, as a nation, focus on mental health before all else, which would help with all other social ills we see now. Unfortunately, many people need to be locked up in institutions for their own good and the good of all of us.


I am happy to see I am not the only one who had both hindsight
and foresight to see what's coming if nothing is done about this.

One can only go so far as to blame the drinking water!
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