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Old 08-18-2019, 11:19 AM
 
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China has been ruled by different dynasties for millennia. Right now, the PRC is the current ruling dynasty.

It's ironic that Jackie Chan is supporting the PRC since his success was due in large part to the economic freedoms that Hong Kong had in comparison with mainland China. The HK film industry wouldn't be where it is today if not for the independence that HK had from the PRC.

 
Old 08-18-2019, 11:28 AM
 
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China has been ruled by different dynasties for millennia. Right now, the PRC is the current ruling dynasty.

It's ironic that Jackie Chan is supporting the PRC since his success was due in large part to the economic freedoms that Hong Kong had in comparison with mainland China. The HK film industry wouldn't be where it is today if not for the independence that HK had from the PRC.
He doesn't want to lose access to the mainland market. Like most everyone else, Chan is turning a blind eye to dictatorship for the $$$.
 
Old 08-18-2019, 11:44 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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On December 19, 1984, after years of negotiations, British and Chinese leaders signed a formal pact approving the 1997 turnover of the colony in exchange for the formulation of a “one country, two systems” policy by China’s communist government.
The above highlighted phrase should be followed by "Trust us!" We know how that usually turns out.

It can be translated into English as "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor; if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan."

In all cases these are phrases used by government to fool people into supporting them. Whereupon they simply ignore their promises and crack down, implementing policies that instead would have cause their people to reuse all support.

Also known as "Usurping power under false pretenses".
 
Old 08-18-2019, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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The "political studying" was not that bad. Usually a cadre read some news or explained some new policy. The audience often did their own work or just relaxed. It was also a way for people to socialize. The idea came from the Soviet Union, and originated from Christian/Judaic church.

As pupils, we got half a day off.
Not for me I'd have to say - I would opt for a bit of fishing. I'm sure the cadre would have been cool with that....... and if not, who cares?
 
Old 08-18-2019, 01:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Honk Kong has never wanted to be fully absorbed into the PRC. The strict ordehat PRC demands and maintains by force has never been a pleasant prospect to the people of Honk Kong. Honk Kong has always been a place of rampant disorder, criminal activity and everything the PRC hates.
Hong Kong has always been a place of rampant disorder, criminal activity, and individual freedom and prosperity, everything the PRC hates.

(fixed it for you.)

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Old 08-18-2019, 08:22 PM
 
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China has been ruled by different dynasties for millennia. Right now, the PRC is the current ruling dynasty.

It's ironic that Jackie Chan is supporting the PRC since his success was due in large part to the economic freedoms that Hong Kong had in comparison with mainland China. The HK film industry wouldn't be where it is today if not for the independence that HK had from the PRC.
Yeah but that doesn’t mean HK will ever be politically independent. No way no how.
 
Old 08-18-2019, 08:26 PM
 
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Hong Kong has always been a place of rampant disorder, criminal activity, and individual freedom and prosperity, everything the PRC hates.

(fixed it for you.)
Without order and control, and by extension less freedom, china wot;d never be able to be governed, let alone developed and achieve progress. The fixation on personal freedom is not always the best answer for every country.

China grew from a poor backwater to the 2nd largest economy in just 30 year......without the personal freedom and prosperity that you claim China hates.....
 
Old 08-19-2019, 04:11 PM
 
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China's propaganda Twitter cites US policing style as a model for cracking down on Hong Kong protesters:

https://twitter.com/CCTV/status/1163075141330358272

Hmm, and where exactly did they lie? I just don't see.
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