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Old 08-18-2019, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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It doesn't matter.

Property rights are absolute, and slippery slopes are a real thing.
You need bump stock or an AR15 to defend property.
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Old 08-18-2019, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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You need bump stock or an AR15 to defend property.
The only person who has the right to determine what someone "needs" is that person themselves.

If I want a fully automatic machine gun it is my inherent right to own one.
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Old 08-18-2019, 08:52 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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This is why they are losing and Trump is winning.
I guess you will be moving to Greenland now? Take a jacket.
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Old 08-18-2019, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The only person who has the right to determine what someone "needs" is that person themselves.

If I want a fully automatic machine gun it is my inherent right to own one.
That is quite obviously not true.
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Old 08-18-2019, 08:58 PM
 
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That is quite obviously not true.

You obviously have not read the 2nd amendment.
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Old 08-19-2019, 07:58 AM
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Location: On the Border
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You obviously have not read the 2nd amendment.
The "well regulated" part?
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Old 08-19-2019, 09:35 AM
 
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The "well regulated" part?
They seem to hate that word and conveniently choose to ignore it.
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Old 08-19-2019, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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The "well regulated" part?
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They seem to hate that word and conveniently choose to ignore it.
Rights aren't granted by the Constitution. Rights are inherent.

Therefore, “well regulated” means nothing.
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Old 08-19-2019, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Rights aren't granted by the Constitution. Rights are inherent.

Therefore, “well regulated” means nothing.
True, but the meaning of well regulated means practiced and well equipped. However the right to possess a firearm has NOTHING to do with being in a Militia.

The Constitution only LIMITS what GOVERNMENT can do. It does NOT grant is rights.
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Old 08-19-2019, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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True, but the meaning of well regulated means practiced and well equipped. However the right to possess a firearm has NOTHING to do with being in a Militia.

The Constitution only LIMITS what GOVERNMENT can do. It does NOT grant is rights.
Obviously the Constitution is a failure as it has never once limited what the government can do.

Spooner said it best:

“But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.”
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