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Old 08-19-2019, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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Daniel Pantanelo should be rotting in prison for manslaughter. They did NOT have probable cause of a crime when they initially went hands on with Eric Garner. The initial arrest was unconstitutional and the use of lethal force against someone that did not pose a threat to any of the officers there was completely unconstitutional. Finally, according to SCOTUS, the ONLY time a LEO has an absolute DUTY to protect anyone is when they are in custody. Eric Garner was in custody and rather than protecting his rights, Daniel Pantanelo violated his rights by killing the man.

 
Old 08-19-2019, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by GoldenPineTree View Post
That he was fired. Isn’t that obvious ? He shouldn’t be even disciplined. His actions were in line with a big guy resisting arrest.
He stopped resisting once the cop choked the life out of him, yet the cop kept going.
 
Old 08-19-2019, 02:12 PM
 
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Only winners here was Eric's family financially speaking. They got more in a settlement than the big guy would ever earn in 10 lifetimes.

Messages taken away from this. If you own a small business like a bodega in NYC, rethink your decision. You get to pay astronomical rents and taxes while some street hustler can sell them cheaper right in front of your place of business. After this no one will be chased away from hustling in front of a business.

Cops learn not to get involved. Protect yourself. Get supervisor in on every call. Slow rides to every call. Your department will not have your back period.
 
Old 08-19-2019, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Oh no, now he'll have to move a city over, and start work again.
 
Old 08-19-2019, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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Oh no, now he'll have to move a city over, and start work again.
He won't have too. The PBA will be hiring him at the same exact salary. He will also be suing. I would not be surprised to see him walk away with a nice settlement. Or there are tons of retired guys that know what bs this is. They own their own companies. He will be hired and he will do just fine.
 
Old 08-19-2019, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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These cops murdered a guy for exercising his right to freely exchange goods and services.

It is something straight out of communist East Germany.

Anyone who defends these cops is not only anti-human, but anti-capitalist.
 
Old 08-19-2019, 04:40 PM
 
Location: 404
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Ramsey Orta, the bystander who recorded the homicide, was sentenced to 4 years. He took a plea to keep his mom out of jail. That is what the NYPD does.
 
Old 08-19-2019, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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Ramsey Orta, the bystander who recorded the homicide, was sentenced to 4 years. He took a plea to keep his mom out of jail. That is what the NYPD does.
You are not being honest. Why was he given 4 years? Please let us all know why. What was the charge?
 
Old 08-19-2019, 04:54 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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That he was fired. Isn’t that obvious ? He shouldn’t be even disciplined. His actions were in line with a big guy resisting arrest.
I mean, according to the guy that fired him, his actions were not in line.

Who gave the press conference? He seemed genuinely torn between following their rules and regulations and what happens in the field and also his responsibility to both the police and the citizens.

He walked that fine line as best he could. Either way - there were going to be might unhappy people
 
Old 08-19-2019, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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You are not being honest. Why was he given 4 years? Please let us all know why. What was the charge?
Oh come on, you know damn well the NYPD decided to do this guy over since he made that video. They would have kept digging until they made something stick.

I bet most people could be caught on some kind of legal violation if they had a police dept out for blood digging into their private life.
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