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I think way too many people call people Nazis without their being proof or any actual relation to Nazi practices. But these high schoolers may not be full-fledged Nazis, but they are sure enjoying pretending they are, or at least having fun singing and saluting Nazi-style. It was an off campus event, with about 10 members of a water polo team from a California school.
I can understanding knowing what the Nazi salute is--we've all seen photos. But the songs? Either they are members of Nazi groups or at least visited Nazi web sites to learn more---either way, that is more time and energy invested in something that would seemingly have no value to them. Scary that they could be so anti-Semitic. I can't see how Jews are adversely affecting them in any way---seems like they may have pretty good lives, living in California and doing a prestigious sport like water polo. Why the hate?
Could it be that they aren't really anti-Semitic, but just wanted to do and film something shocking---like the teen in Hawaii who ruined a sand sculpture may not hate sand/sculptures but just wanted to do something attention-getting?
And what should be the consequences for this? It happened off-campus---so should be the school even be involved?
What you posted in not a new event.
That happened years ago, not yesterday.
Bob.
For some reason, it's trending today on a number of sites. It occurred in November 2018. The school found out about it in March 2019. They have "addressed" the situation but won't say exactly how. Not sure why it is so confidential without naming names---maybe if you know the students you can identify them on the video, but most people couldn't.
And I was wrong. It was off-campus, but a banquet for student athletes, so school-related.
So yeah, I didn't know about this in November when it happened or in March when the school learned about it. But it still shocks and distresses, "old news" or not...
It's called backlash. Nothing new for high schoolers. You harp on them so much about something... they get sick of hearing it... and they do just the opposite of what you intended for them. I think most of us have gone through that thought process. I know I have. I don't believe it is because they claim to be or want to be Nazis in the vast majority of the cases. It is their way of giving you (not you personally) the middle finger.
For some reason, it's trending today on a number of sites. It occurred in November 2018. The school found out about it in March 2019. They have "addressed" the situation but won't say exactly how. Not sure why it is so confidential without naming names---maybe if you know the students you can identify them on the video, but most people couldn't.
And I was wrong. It was off-campus, but a banquet for student athletes, so school-related.
So yeah, I didn't know about this in November when it happened or in March when the school learned about it. But it still shocks and distresses, "old news" or not...
Why ? That term "Nazi" is being freely flung at people all over today. Why wouldn't it lose it's original meaning ?
Racist and racism used to mean something too.
Overuse of the word has destroyed what it meant and the evil behind it.
These kids are just parroting what they see adults doing and saying..some of them elected adults that are running our country.
In their quest to gain "shock value" from using the word they have completely demoted those words to meaning nothing more than name calling.
And we're seeing Holocaust being tossed out there the same way now by AOC.
Illegal detention camps are nothing like the holocaust concentration camps and I'm surprised that her peers in Congress didn't call her out on that.
It's called backlash. Nothing new for high schoolers. You harp on them so much about something... they get sick of hearing it... and they do just the opposite of what you intended for them. I think most of us have gone through that thought process. I know I have. I don't believe it is because they claim to be or want to be Nazis in the vast majority of the cases. It is their way of giving you (not you personally) the middle finger.
Yup, I get what you are saying. But I'm not sure we joked about Nazi stuff or racist stuff back in the day. And adolescents have always wanted to rebel against what adults didn't want them to do, like alcohol, drugs, sex. Back in my time there was even the TV show Hogan's Hero's but I don't remember kids pretending to be Nazis as a joke.
Did we have less of a sense of humor? Or were we just not into cheap laughs---and didn't have the incentive to do this hilarity since there wasn't social media to post it on?
And while I understand kids wanting to give authority figures the middle finger a lot, it would be mostly parents and teachers demanding stuff of them. This was a banquet where they were being honored for their athletic ability. Why would they even have thought to do the Nazi stuff?
Yup, I get what you are saying. But I'm not sure we joked about Nazi stuff or racist stuff back in the day. And adolescents have always wanted to rebel against what adults didn't want them to do, like alcohol, drugs, sex. Back in my time there was even the TV show Hogan's Hero's but I don't remember kids pretending to be Nazis as a joke.
Did we have less of a sense of humor? Or were we just not into cheap laughs---and didn't have the incentive to do this hilarity since there wasn't social media to post it on?
And while I understand kids wanting to give authority figures the middle finger a lot, it would be mostly parents and teachers demanding stuff of them. This was a banquet where they were being honored for their athletic ability. Why would they even have thought to do the Nazi stuff?
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