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Old 08-22-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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Wrong.
Yes, you are wrong as usual.

 
Old 08-22-2019, 09:15 AM
 
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Yes, you are wrong as usual.
About what?
 
Old 08-22-2019, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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There is no such thing as natural damage.
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Yes, there is. Ever hear of fires in the Everglades? Some of those are caused by lightning strikes. Or does the left think that Trump controls lighting now?
 
Old 08-22-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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About what?
That people were not concerned about deforestation in South America when the last admin was in office. I've personally participated in those conversations on this very forum. The consensus was that they have a right to log those areas to make a living. The ONLY reason this is even an issue now is because Leftists are trying to tie some leader down there to Trump. That's the only reason this thread exists.
 
Old 08-22-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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Yes, there is. Ever hear of fires in the Everglades? Some of those are caused by lightning strikes. Or does the left think that Trump controls lighting now?
However that is not the situation here.
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That people were not concerned about deforestation in South America when the last admin was in office. I've personally participated in those conversations on this very forum. The consensus was that they have a right to log those areas to make a living. The ONLY reason this is even an issue now is because Leftists are trying to tie some leader down there to Trump. That's the only reason this thread exists.
Nope, people have been concerned about this for decades. Deforestation has been an epidemic there for a long time & those of us who are environmentalists know this. Maybe you & your ilk have kept your head in the sand but not me.
 
Old 08-22-2019, 10:23 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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So come up with a way to pay people in Brazil not to cut down the rain forests. Otherwise they have a right to survive.
There ARE various international funds aimed at helping Brazil protect the Amazon.
Of course that cannot mean that Brazilians lean back and blackmail the world. It is up to the Brazilian government and economy to create sustainable jobs.
Chopping down the rain forest is not sustainable. It will be replaced by giant farms, which hardly employ anyone because they use huge machines and because most Brazilians don't want to work in agriculture anyway. The profits of that craziness flow into the pockets of a few giant agro companies and their investors. Brazil as such does not gain anything from chopping down the Amazon. I am not against development, but Brazil is huge, there are vast regions outside the Amazon where Brazilians can live and work.
 
Old 08-22-2019, 10:26 AM
 
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They said on the news that the Amazon produces 1/4 of the world's oxygen. Something we should keep in mind. It turns the Amazon into an international concern.
How irresponsible does one have to be to pretend like this is all Brazil's internal business? Even the most backwards people and their children in the US and Europe will be affected.
 
Old 08-22-2019, 10:40 AM
 
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I find it absolutely hilarious that people are all of a sudden concerned about deforestation down there. Not too long ago before Trump was in office and this topic came up about South Americans cutting down the forests at a rapid pace the climate hoaxers all said, so what, the South American people have a right to make a living by logging those areas and when it was mentioned that those forests are critical to the planet's atmosphere all we were told is it's only a small percentage, we'll be fine. Bunch of fakes.
When did that happen?
 
Old 08-22-2019, 10:43 AM
 
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That people were not concerned about deforestation in South America when the last admin was in office. I've personally participated in those conversations on this very forum. The consensus was that they have a right to log those areas to make a living. The ONLY reason this is even an issue now is because Leftists are trying to tie some leader down there to Trump. That's the only reason this thread exists.
People were angry at their current president who supported more deforestation. Overall that guy makes Trump look like a saint.
 
Old 08-22-2019, 10:48 AM
 
Location: London
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The fact that the losses in the Amazon are totally offset by more trees in America, Europe and China eludes you?

Brazil is a very poor country. Let them do what is necessary to survive. Where I live they are turning natural habitat into new subdivisions hurting local wildlife. Its sad but its what people want. The Amazon may one day no longer exist which is terrible but its just the way things go.

https://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...-a8486096.html

Forests chopped down in tropics outweighed by more trees in regions which were previously too cold
Why yes. It's not like the Amazon had an important ecosystem (including hundreds of millions of bees) or anything.

Yeah, planting a few more trees in random suburbs will totally replace all that.
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