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Old 08-24-2019, 01:40 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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Its not white privilige...it's wealth/celebrity privilige.
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:48 PM
 
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The jury was told the tale that he was just trying to "protect her" because she ran out of the room naked...I'm sure there was more to that fictional tale, but that was his claim.
I'm sure the kidnapper, rapist did see it as protecting her from other kidnapper, rapists.
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Old 08-24-2019, 02:07 PM
 
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Just curious, does anyone know how long the jury deliberated in this case? Im betting it was not long.
It is mentioned in the video link, you don't have to bet - just listen.
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Old 08-24-2019, 03:24 PM
 
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The jury was told the tale that he was just trying to "protect her" because she ran out of the room naked...I'm sure there was more to that fictional tale, but that was his claim.
Both times, with both of them naked from the waist down? Geez, there was a witness, video and the police were called and it still was not enough.

He benefited from his popularity in the community.
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Old 08-24-2019, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I agree, even by my paleo-conservative, old common law definition of rape, ie force is used and she resisted. Assault, kidnapping and rape. I wouldn't be surprised if there were 9 black women on the jury.
The county where this trial took place is 75% white. So I assume the jury pool would mirror that figure fairly closely.
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Old 08-24-2019, 03:46 PM
 
Location: NYC
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The defense team claims cleaves was protecting the woman. I guess the jury believed them.
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Old 08-24-2019, 04:02 PM
 
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Who in the heck is 'Mateen Cleaves'?
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Old 08-24-2019, 04:12 PM
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Who in the heck is 'Mateen Cleaves'?
I guess you'd be forced to read the actual article in the first post.
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Old 08-24-2019, 04:14 PM
 
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I guess you'd be forced to read the actual article in the first post.

I just assumed it was some sort of musician, athlete, or 2nd tier actor. My question was asked in the spirit of 'who gives a s***'.
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Old 08-24-2019, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Texas
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After watching the video, it's pretty obvious she wanted nothing to do with him.
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