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The cost of health care today is currently $44 000 per year on average for a family of four. More than twice that of other developed countries. You're saying that we are so incompetent that not only will we not save any money doing what other countries have done, but it will actually be three times as expensive as the rest of the developed world?
Thats just corporate propaganda. We need to find the guts to take on the corruption. If we dont find the guts to do that, and instead just parrot corporate talking points from the medical industrial complex, how can we hope to improve?
What are you talking about? A M4A system means the worker will be paying far less for health care, get better coverage, not have to worry about health care bankruptcy anymore and no longer be chained to the employer for the health of their family.
false...false, and ...false....and one true
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the worker will be paying far less for health care
false.. the worker will be paying a heck of a lot more
many workers (union) has their health insurance paid 100% by employer/union.... they get the big screw...
most others have a 75/25 where the employer pays 75% of the premium...
I pay $349/pay period (2 weeks) of MY SHARE of the premium... my employer pays 75% of that premium ($1047/pay period))......that is family (of 6) coverage
under M4A I alone will be responsible for paying the tax to cover my family as I am the TAX PAYER, and my employer...is the federal government
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get better coverage
sorry but crappy 80/20 medicare with all its denial of service is not better coverage
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not have to worry about health care bankruptcy
bankruptcy comes from not being able to pay your bills....with medicare you still have medical bills... with M4A taking a huge chunk of your check, people are going to NOT be able to meet their bills more often
and not being tied to employment....yes the only thing you said that was factual
$40K would be a family of 4 seniors or maybe 4 with serious ongoing medical/surgical issues.
Its merely a figure of speech. $11 000 per person per year on average. That is the cost of the most expensive health care system in the world by a huge margin.
false.. the worker will be paying a heck of a lot more
many workers (union) has their health insurance paid 100% by employer/union.... they get the big screw...
most others have a 75/25 where the employer pays 75% of the premium...
I pay $349/pay period (2 weeks) of MY SHARE of the premium... my employer pays 75% of that premium ($1047/pay period))......that is family (of 6) coverage
under M4A I alone will be responsible for paying the tax to cover my family as I am the TAX PAYER, and my employer...is the federal government
sorry but crappy 80/20 medicare with all its denial of service is not better coverage
bankruptcy comes from not being able to pay your bills....with medicare you still have medical bills... with M4A taking a huge chunk of your check, people are going to NOT be able to meet their bills more often
and not being tied to employment....yes the only thing you said that was factual
Medicare for all would cover more than what Medicare currently does. Of course we can do what the rest of the developed world figured out a century ago.
Its merely a figure of speech. $11 000 per person per year on average. That is the cost of the most expensive health care system in the world by a huge margin.
Could be one of those average vs median things.
A typical family of 4 is $28K because typical families of 4 don't have the high medical risks and costs in all 4 of their members.
For instance the 2 kids may be very low in annual HC costs. 2 healthy adults not so much either.
My wife has cost over $5M since 1/1/17. Not many families have to endure that!
What it really comes down to is many/most people simply do not believe that it will cost them less and get them more. What has government ever done that resulted in that? It's a huge gamble and pretty much irreversible since once we wipe out the current healthcare/insurance architecture it would be extremely difficult to restore it.
Its true alot of people will buy into corporate propaganda, and believe its better to be chained to the employer for health care and pay the highest health care costs in the world by a huge margin. It was the same struggle to pass Medicare in 1965. But in the 1960s, workers had a big advantage compared to today. Labor unions were far stronger than they are today so corporate elites had less power to get what they want and demonize everything that would benefit ordinary Americans.
But when every single developed country has managed to do it, we can do it as well. Enough with the excuses. We just have to find the guts to stand up and fight back against the current corrupt system.
A typical family of 4 is $28K because typical families of 4 don't have the high medical risks and costs in all 4 of their members.
For instance the 2 kids may be very low in annual HC costs. 2 healthy adults not so much either.
My wife has cost over $5M since 1/1/17. Not many families have to endure that!
Its merely a figure of speech. $11 000 per person per year on average is the cost of todays system. And going up fast. If you're more happy people using that number, thats fine. The point is the cost of today's system is insane. $45 trillion over the next decade.
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