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For some background: There's a guy named Alec Holowka who made a really popular game called Night in the Woods in 2017. Recently, a woman who has been very well known for lying and deceiving people named Zoe Quinn made a tweet claiming back in 2014 he sexually assaulted her:
Yet even despite being just a tweet and allegations, the studio instead of looking further into it, immediately cut ties with him after the cancel culture mob started attacking him, which eventually lead to his suicide:
Alec Holowka, co-founder of Night in the Woods studio Infinite Fall and a designer, programmer, and composer on the game, has died. Holowka's death was announced on Twitter by his sister, Eileen Mary Holowka, who has since locked her account. She did not specify the cause of death, but alluded to suicide, saying that Holowka had recently been supported by crisis services.
Holowka had been "battling mood and personality disorders" throughout his life, said his sister. She also made reference to recent allegations of past emotional and physical abuse by Holowka in her statement.
Zoe Quinn immediately deleted her twitter account after it was announced he committed suicide. Now we can argue whether her allegations were true or not, but regardless, isn't it sad how all one, especially a woman, has to do is make comments and without any actual investigations get a huge hate mob harassing and doxxing someone and the like? I think the fact she immediately deleted her twitter speaks volumes; either what she said didn't happen, or she's greatly exaggerating.
But regardless, I feel anyone who intentionally starts something knowing full well just how bad it will be that ends in someone's death should be culpable. This lying whining ***** knew she could just make one tweet and everyone that follows her would be on her side and harass him, now he commits suicide, she deletes her twitter and acts as if nothing happens. Hope the ***** is happy.
I know nothing about the circumstances of this case. But unfortunaly I have more family memobers nad friend that have committed suicide than anybody else I know. And from those I would say that it is not a sinlgle circumstance thet causes someone to take this ectreme step. It is an intense tragedy that is hard to ecplain to anyone who hasn't had someone close to him/her do it.
If there was online bullying that contributed to this particular suice I condemn it....it is cowardice. But I do take iaaue with one things you said...."isn't it sad how all one, especially a woman, has to do is make comments . . . . ". Why "especially a woman? I'm not an easiy triggered snowflake, etc., but I really wondered st this. If a comment contributed to s tragedy of this magnitude, why dpes the gender of the person factor into it?
For some background: There's a guy named Alec Holowka who made a really popular game called Night in the Woods in 2017. Recently, a woman who has been very well known for lying and deceiving people named Zoe Quinn made a tweet claiming back in 2014 he sexually assaulted her:
Yet even despite being just a tweet and allegations, the studio instead of looking further into it, immediately cut ties with him after the cancel culture mob started attacking him, which eventually lead to his suicide:
Zoe Quinn immediately deleted her twitter account after it was announced he committed suicide. Now we can argue whether her allegations were true or not, but regardless, isn't it sad how all one, especially a woman, has to do is make comments and without any actual investigations get a huge hate mob harassing and doxxing someone and the like? I think the fact she immediately deleted her twitter speaks volumes; either what she said didn't happen, or she's greatly exaggerating.
But regardless, I feel anyone who intentionally starts something knowing full well just how bad it will be that ends in someone's death should be culpable. This lying whining ***** knew she could just make one tweet and everyone that follows her would be on her side and harass him, now he commits suicide, she deletes her twitter and acts as if nothing happens. Hope the ***** is happy.
Problem is what legal standards do we utilize to potentially charge Person A for Person B's suicide?
Problem is what legal standards do we utilize to potentially charge Person A for Person B's suicide?
Making someone else responsible for someones suicide is the dumbest thing I ever heard.
If someone doesn't like what's being said about them online they can go OFFline. It's not like physical bullying that you can't get away from. People today are too thin - skinned and wussyfied! If you don't like something don't look at it. Problem solved.
Also, we do have a First Amendment in this country.
I'm leaning toward the belief that someone who levels a felony criminal accusation over social media should have to immediately report to the authorities and submit a police report, and sign an affidavit which states that everything they claim is true. Afterwards the tweet or post should be deleted. The accusation becomes a criminal investigation.
Criminal allegations like these need to be submitted to the authorities, instead of fed to the rabid dogs in public and on social media.
"Cancel culture," "swatting," "trial by public" etc. must not continue. It is in no way compatible with a developed and civil society. Anyone can say anything, and it can absolutely ruin the accused. Or enough false accusations (hopefully) backfire, but results in the public being desensitized once an honest victim needs to speak out and be heard. (crying wolf effect)
If somebody makes an accusation, you need thousands of dollars to mount a defense and to weather other related hardships. Coming up with about $200k for legal expenses is a luxury for people of wealth who can swat away trivial allegations-- whether they're true or not.
I can randomly go on Twitter and make an effective "topical" accusation against some 9-to-5er who makes anything under $100k/year. If "successful," that middle- or lower-class person would be destroyed. No wonder this guy ended his life.
His sister admitted he had problems and other such accusations against him. He had a history of volatile behavior. Sounds like he couldn't handle himself and harassed the wrong person. Quinn was not going to be someone who would tolerate that quietly, he maybe should have considered that.
For some background: There's a guy named Alec Holowka who made a really popular game called Night in the Woods in 2017. Recently, a woman who has been very well known for lying and deceiving people named Zoe Quinn made a tweet claiming back in 2014 he sexually assaulted her:
Yet even despite being just a tweet and allegations, the studio instead of looking further into it, immediately cut ties with him after the cancel culture mob started attacking him, which eventually lead to his suicide:
Zoe Quinn immediately deleted her twitter account after it was announced he committed suicide. Now we can argue whether her allegations were true or not, but regardless, isn't it sad how all one, especially a woman, has to do is make comments and without any actual investigations get a huge hate mob harassing and doxxing someone and the like? I think the fact she immediately deleted her twitter speaks volumes; either what she said didn't happen, or she's greatly exaggerating.
But regardless, I feel anyone who intentionally starts something knowing full well just how bad it will be that ends in someone's death should be culpable. This lying whining ***** knew she could just make one tweet and everyone that follows her would be on her side and harass him, now he commits suicide, she deletes her twitter and acts as if nothing happens. Hope the ***** is happy.
Disclaimer: I can't stand Zoe Quinn, so my reply is probably biased right from the start.
Having said that, do you all remember the girl who texted her friend who was in a car telling her he was going to commit suicide, and she urged him to do it?
So - I agree that those who do this sort of thing should be held accountable. As for Zoe Quinn, I'd love to see her fall from that pedestal she's placed herself on - GamerGate hag.
The individual took their own life. Free will exists.
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