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Old 10-04-2019, 07:42 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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Originally Posted by nmnita View Post
I agree about finding someone balanced, but it appears, at least for now we just don't seem to have that. I will add, I am not sure Trump is that far right, he is just a jerk, so appears to be far right. Add to that the Dems have not yet got over his win and fight him at every crossing. He doesn't know what to do other than act like a jerk And the bad part, he has done some really good things
You’re correct: Trump isn’t “far right”, he’s a “far jerk”. He doesn’t have a political, or moral, ideology. His ideology is “Trump”. At any cost to anyone else. He’s a pathological liar and cheat, sociopathic narcissist, and a dozen more seriously dangerous psychological disorders wrapped up in one ugly hairdo.

Now why should any sane person - Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, or other - “get over” a dangerous jerk like he is slipping through a flawed electoral system? Why would you or anyone call that a “win” for America? Why wouldn‘t any sane person fight to turn the country back around at every crossing?

This catastrophe for America isn’t partisan. And Jeff Flake, John Kasich, John McCain, Bob Corker, Jeb Bush, GW Bush, HW Bush, Barbara Bush, David Brooks, George Will, George Conway, Rex Tillerson, General HR McMasters, Bill Kristol, Jerry Taylor, the Koch brothers, General John Kelly, along with thousands of other prominent conservatives and Libertarians agree with the assessment I just offered.

 
Old 10-04-2019, 08:06 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Tulemutt View Post
1. You have no actual knowledge of his net worth
2. You don’t know how he got whatever he has
3. Is money really your top metric for success in life? Sad.
1. No, but I think it's agreed upon that he is very wealthy.

2. He got what he has by earning it. He's a risk taker, and sometimes risks fail, and sometimes they succeed. He's obviously used his failures to learn from, as he is now a success. You can compare that to others running that are risk averse - they take the safe route, in most of their cases in the public sector, where once you're in, you can't be gotten out. There is virtually no risk to taking a government job.

3. It is to a certain degree. And in Trump's case, the fact that he donates a lot of his fortune would qualify him as having a successful life.
 
Old 10-04-2019, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Hollywood and Vine
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Originally Posted by V8 Vega View Post
I'm the same age as Biden. I get tired easily and often, for sure every afternoon.
Harris got her start by being Willie Browns girlfriend, she was 30 he was 60 and married, Typical Democrat morals.
LMAO you are ok then with that Orange pornster in the WH with his purchased 24 yr younger wife ?? He is not exactly Mr. Fidelity .
These conserves never cease to amaze . More concerned over this nut than the country and no he has done nothing good for the country at all .
I am pretty much with Tulemutt as far as that unspeakable animal in office is concerned .

I think all sides of the fence IN Washington wish this were over with and the country back to normal order

Anyway ,
Democrat
Kern Co

I WISH Bernie was younger but I like all the candidates . I am going to have a hard time deciding which to vote for in the primaries. I hope Bernie stays in , but I do like Biden , Warren and yes even Kamala .

We are going to need someone really strong and truly experienced at the helm when this is over .
The country is badly injured and I hope can make it through . This catastrophe really has me thinking that there should be some sort of qualifiers besides cash to become President . Like all other jobs .
 
Old 10-04-2019, 10:13 AM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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Originally Posted by CA4Now View Post
I agree; she's too confrontational, bombastic, and prosecutorial. And she needs to finish her Senate term.
Judging by where she ranks in the polls and from what analysts are saying, short of the top candidates dropping out of the race, she has little chance of making it. Hallelujah!
 
Old 10-04-2019, 10:20 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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Originally Posted by ringwise View Post
1. No, but I think it's agreed upon that he is very wealthy.

2. He got what he has by earning it. He's a risk taker, and sometimes risks fail, and sometimes they succeed. He's obviously used his failures to learn from, as he is now a success. You can compare that to others running that are risk averse - they take the safe route, in most of their cases in the public sector, where once you're in, you can't be gotten out. There is virtually no risk to taking a government job.

3. It is to a certain degree. And in Trump's case, the fact that he donates a lot of his fortune would qualify him as having a successful life.
His financial wealth is unknown. Because he is such a liar.

He hasn’t “earned” anything by any real definition of “work” or talent or skill. He has cheated, squandered, lied, licensed, sued, and bankrupted his way into a fog of obfuscation.

And where do you get that he has “donated a lot of his fortune”?

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The Trump campaign had provided the newspaper with a list of donations made by the candidate, but many turned out to be gifts-in-kind from Trump’s businesses, such as free rounds of golf at Trump courses donated to charity auctions, and land-conservation agreements to forgo development rights on Trump-owned properties. The only cash donations were from the Donald J. Trump Foundation, the family charity that Trump established in 1988. But the Post also pointed out that Trump hadn’t given any of his own money to the Trump Foundation since 2008—almost all of its funding came from other people, including some of his business associates. https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-...ritable-giving
 
Old 10-04-2019, 05:23 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Originally Posted by ringwise View Post
2. He got what he has by earning it.
Don't forget that he inherited $413 million from his father.
 
Old 10-04-2019, 06:05 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Don't forget that he inherited $413 million from his father.
And I personally wouldn’t be a bit surprised if his actual worth today is less than that inheritance ... smoke and mirrors.
 
Old 10-04-2019, 06:18 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Please respond to the following questions:

1. What CA county are you registered to vote in?
San Francisco
2. What Political Party do you belong to?
Democratic
3. Please rank the following Democratic Candidates in order of prefence, 1 being your favorite, 4 being your least favorite: Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren
1. Biden (because based on what happened in 2016, I think undecided voters may be more likely to choose a white male over a woman of any race. I wish this weren't so, but it is.)
2. Warren (I like her ideas, her energy and her gutsy, can-do attitude. In men these qualities are accepted as positives, but women like that are often seen as nags or shrews, unfortunately. Otherwise I would put Warren at #1.)
3. Harris/Sanders. I don't think either one could win. Bernie's too old and has health issues. Harris is too young, inexperienced at the national level and comes across as a bit humorless and arrogant.

4. What are the 3 most important issues to you?
1. Health care
2. Jobs (that pay a living wage and don't require college, like the kind that were abundant in my parents' generation)
3. The environment
 
Old 10-05-2019, 07:01 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I can't say that I'm disappointed to learn Harris is losing ground in the polls. She has a lot to learn about this country's population. Not everyone is a liberal elite. Many still have moderately conservative values. Her progressive push doesn't sit well with a lot of people, which is probably why she's sliding.

I'd love to see someone in the White House that is more balanced. Not far left and not far right. Both of those ends of the spectrum seem to be crazy. I just want someone who is more normal although I don't even know what "normal" means anymore. Such anger in this country. Heck, you can't even go to YouTube and comment on a video without getting your head ripped off.


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Originally Posted by nmnita View Post
I agree about finding someone balanced, but it appears, at least for now we just don't seem to have that. I will add, I am not sure Trump is that far right, he is just a jerk, so appears to be far right. Add to that the Dems have not yet got over his win and fight him at every crossing. He doesn't know what to do other than act like a jerk And the bad part, he has done some really good things
I like some of what he has done, and hate other things he's done.

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Please respond to the following questions:

1. What CA county are you registered to vote in?
LA
2. What Political Party do you belong to?
Used to be democratic. None anymore.
3. Please rank the following Democratic Candidates in order of prefence, 1 being your favorite, 4 being your least favorite: Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren
1. Biden (Unfortunately, he's too old and too many warning signs lately. I think he might be the most moderate and sensible one of the forerunners, or at least he was before he had to compete with the rest of them coming up.
2. Warren (I really don't think being a woman is a deterrent at this point. I may be wrong, who knows. I don't like her at all, either, but the lesser of the following evils, I guess. I do find her too naggy and shrewish, but I feel that way about most of them, including the men; Buttigieg, Booker, and O'Rourke. I'm tired of being "chastised" and "shamed," and seriously tired of them putting others' welfare before our own.)
3. Sanders (Too socialist, too old, and now a serious health scare.)
4. Harris (Can't think of one good thing to say about her. Can't stand her.)
I wish Tulsi had more headway. She at least presents herself well, seems more calm and sensible. Strong. I need to see more of where she stands on issues. I liked John Delaney and Tim Ryan in the debates. Of course, none of these are "progressive" or "woke" enough. Ugh.

4. What are the 3 most important issues to you?
1. Illegal immigration
2. Health care (pretty much neck-and-neck with jobs.)
3. Jobs
4. Environment (I snuck in a 4th. The environment is very important to me, but I would say the previous concerns need to be addressed first.

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Old 10-05-2019, 07:42 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I forgot to add to my list, the homeless. We've GOT to get a handle on that. It's absolutely ridiculous. Unbelievable.
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