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Old 09-22-2019, 04:21 PM
 
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"A New York judge earlier this month recommended a landlord pay $17,000 in fines for threatening to call immigration authorities on an undocumented tenant".

This is a CNN article so the use of "undocumented immigrant" is expected along with the other pro-illegal alien remarks. Since when is there a law that protects illegal aliens from ICE and when reported it's called harrassment?

More pro-illegal BS from this article below.

"Commission on Human Rights, told CNN. "We will not allow our city's most vulnerable to be further marginalized out of fear for their safety in their own homes. Immigration status, citizenship, and national origin (perceived or actual) are protected categories under our law, and we will continue to fight to ensure those protections are enforced to the fullest extent."

Is there any wonder why we have a huge illegal immigration problem based on NYC and other sanctuary city's nonsense?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ny...Xcr?li=BBnb7Kz
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:32 PM
 
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Reporting someone who is breaking the law will get you fined to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars?

Good to know.

Have the police been notified that their entire job is not financially feasible, as their salary will be used to pay all the fines they will be getting?
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:36 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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The woman lost her home because she could no longer pay her mortgage once this woman did not pay her rent, then this????
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Here's the lesson, kids. Don't threaten - just make the damn call.
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:41 PM
 
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Since when do judges make "recommendations"? Is that a legally binding court judgment or not?
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:52 PM
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Here's a Wall Street Journal article, with a little more info.

Apparently Ondaan had lived in the property since 2011, and stopped her payments in Oct. 2017 due to inability to pay. Lysius followed the legal recourse, to have her evicted in January 2018. During that time, it is alleged, and Lysius denies it, that she sent illegal threatening texts and emails to Ondaan.

Ondaan eventually moved out, Lysius lost her property due to inability to pay mortgage because of lack of income from the property, and Ondaan has been ordered to pay 6K back rent.

It seems the landlord/tenant rules in NYC might need another look. This is about inability to collect rent, not about a landlord's rights to harass a tenant who isn't paying. Maybe this could have been worked out if she had 2 months to pay, and then after that, another month to get her stuff and move out? The landlord would be in JUST as bad a situation as she is now, had the tenant been a US citizen instead of a now legal resident of the US as a green card holder from the EU.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-yor...nt-11568931010
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:54 PM
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Reporting someone who is breaking the law will get you fined to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars?

Good to know.

Have the police been notified that their entire job is not financially feasible, as their salary will be used to pay all the fines they will be getting?
I think this falls under "black mail laws" which define black mail as threatening to report someone for a crime unless they give you money or some other compensation.

Which, in the US, is illegal.

Had she gotten wind that her paying tenant was an illegal immigrant - which she WAS, from 2011 to 2017 and the landlord obviously knew about it, and overlooked it so she could rent to her. She could have called ICE to report that and her paying tenant would maybe be removed.

As it was, she waited til the tenant couldn't pay, then threatened to report her crime unless she kept paying the rent.

Black mail. Illegal.
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:58 PM
 
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Here's the lesson, kids. Don't threaten - just make the damn call.

...another lesson kids...from a former massachusetts 'multiple dwelling owner'...


...never, never, ever advertise a vacancy, rent by word of mouth, once you advertise you open yourself up to every nutcase out there, who will, at the drop of a hat complain to the numerous agency's out there that you're discriminating, might lose a month or two in rent but well worth it...
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Old 09-22-2019, 05:03 PM
 
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Old 09-22-2019, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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...another lesson kids...from a former massachusetts 'multiple dwelling owner'...


...never, never, ever advertise a vacancy, rent by word of mouth, once you advertise you open yourself up to every nutcase out there, who will, at the drop of a hat complain to the numerous agency's out there that you're discriminating, might lose a month or two in rent but well worth it...
Another good lesson!

We'll all go to sleep a little wiser tonight.
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