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No c'mon, get serious.....but if her adult guardians had been carrying, there may have been some chance that she would have lived, Think, man, think!
What? Did you even read or see the news story? They were riding in a car and when the shooting started, the mother climbed into the back seat to cover the children. She didn't even know anyone had been shot until she looked over and saw her little girl covered in blood. They were in a moving car. They weren't out on the street somewhere.
Walmart’s decision is not going to save any lives nor will it stop any madman from carrying out and doing exactly what he set out to do . Millions of people own all kinds of guns yet only a few nut jobs go on these rampages. Occasionally some disgruntled employee goes and shoots a bunch of coworkers with a gun he already owned for years. Restrictions on ammo or types of guns isn’t going to stop anything.
What, you mean like a gunfight at the ok corral? This last shooting that happened, people were shot while driving their car. Didn't even see it coming. I know you mean well and in some circumstances, yes, having a gun is beneficial - like if someone breaks into your home - but when you're out in public and it's random, that's not something even the average citizen (like me) can manage. Besides, I'd be too afraid my bullet would pass through the gunman and hit someone else. I've managed to get through life without a gun. At my age, a stroke or heart attack is more likely to take me out than the bullet of a madman. I do fear for the younger generation, though.
That's why one would use hollow points to reduce the chance of the round exiting the person and flying into the next.
That's why I practice relentlessly so I don't miss........and I am an advocate for no restriction of ammo so I am able to practice.
As to the average citizen, on one side of the coin, okay, so I may be above average, with training, experience, and degrees in the security world that many people don't have. But on the other side of the coin, with a population of millions where a bell curve is being applied.......just how many people like me does one think there are walking around?
As far as not seeing it coming, well, A and B. A: That's the full combat suite, where everything is tied into the fighting me. Offensive, defensive, support, camouflage, evasive, instinct, everything. Gun, hand to hand, moves, tactics, everything. B: And if fate still somehow gets past all that and gets me.......Well, sometimes the dragon wins.
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Walmart’s decision is not going to save any lives nor will it stop any madman from carrying out and doing exactly what he set out to do . Millions of people own all kinds of guns yet only a few nut jobs go on these rampages. Occasionally some disgruntled employee goes and shoots a bunch of coworkers with a gun he already owned for years. Restrictions on ammo or types of guns isn’t going to stop anything.
Reminds me of what I told a co worker once if such ever decided to go postal........."You're going through a window.".
Maybe such would not, the windows are double pane around here, but I would pick them up and shove them that direction with 100%+ force of will to do that.
A and B. A: Again, part of my training that if things do go down and I am without a gun, then I am to be deadly in hand to hand at point blank range. B: "Come off it! Who do you think you are, Buffy? You think you can take out anyone with a flurry of punches?". Look at it from this side of the coin of while they are engage with me, others can have a few seconds to get out.
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I don't know if you guys actually read the announcement BUT Walmart is only prohibiting OPEN carry. In Kansas that will require they have a specific sign which prohibits OPEN carry but it does NOT prevent a person from lawfully carrying CONCEALED unless Walmart put up a general no firearms sign because in my State, Kansas, we have constitutional carry.
Personally, I think it's a stupid corporate policy but those stores are their property and therefore they can do what they want.
Just last week I got into an argument, not a debate, an actual argument with my niece who worked for Walmart for 8 years about firearms in Walmart. She tried to tell me that all firearms are prohibited in our local Walmart and that it has been that way the entire time she worked there. I argued she was wrong because there aren't any signs on the doors prohibiting firearms to which she countered they are there and that I just didn't look hard enough. I went by that store over the weekend, carefully driving by each door and there are no signs anywhere prohibiting carrying firearms of any kind.
Kansas had a very specific sign for prohibiting open carry while still allowing concealed carry. I will keep a close eye out for whatever kind of signs they post, if they post them at all. BTW, in Kansas, the only way a business can prohibit carrying a firearm is if they post a sign at each and every publicly accessible door at eye level. The signs are required to meet State standards, so again, I'll just wait and see.
All Wally has done is make a softer target for the nut jobs......the ammo is irrelevant.....thanks to Obama most in the gun world stocked up years ago....
"and now requests patrons no longer carry guns in store"
So, if I go into a Walmart and am attacked by someone with a gun and am shot and injured, can I sue Walmart for NOT allowing me to properly defend myself an hold them reponsible?
Good start. Hope they build on it and stop selling all guns and ammo. And I hope other stores follow suit. No one NEEDS a gun to go grocery shopping unless of course they're a coward.
I can now start shopping at Walmart again!
"No one NEEDS a gun to go grocery shopping unless of course they're a coward." What ever you say! If some would do just a little research BEFORE posting, they wouldn't make such big fools of themselves! Do you like your crow fried or baked?
You DO know Walmart sells MORE then just groceries? Guess not.
Aug 15, 2019 - PENSACOLA, Fla. – A sheriff's deputy in Florida shot a man Thursday afternoon after the suspect allegedly opened fire inside a grocery store.
Mar 17, 2019 - A man was shot Sunday night outside of a Raleigh grocery store. Authorities said the shooting happened Sunday night at Longview Poole Road Grocery Store at 2405 Poole Road. The victim, who has not been identified, was transported to WakeMed Hospital. There is no word on the severity ... Kroger grocery store shooting investigated as possible hate crime ...
Oct 26, 2018 - A federal prosecutor says the shooting at a Kentucky grocery store that ... pulled a gun from his waist and shot a man in the back of the head, ...
Jul 26, 2019 - A man is in custody after deputies said he shot and killed another man ... in connection with fatal shooting at Orange County convenience store.
Aug 7, 2019 - Three suspects were on the run after a shooting severely injured a man in a King Soopers in Castle Rock about 7 p.m. Tuesday, police said.
Good. I'm glad they're getting out of the gun business. I really dont like them anyhow. They're a bully. Because of their size, they bully and squeeze suppliers for cheaper and cheaper prices, they open in small towns and ruin many local business, and historically paid cheap wages with lousy benefits. Many of their goods are very cheaply made. But there are problems for them. Others are starting to beat them on price.Someday they'll join Sears and Kmart.
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