Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 09-04-2019, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
34,231 posts, read 18,579,444 times
Reputation: 25802

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
When we try to denuclearize Iran or NK, is it the bomb or the people we are trying to eliminate?

Walmart realizes, by eliminating guns in their inventory, it is the guns and not their customers.
Strategic and tactical Nuclear weapons have absolutely no relationship to personal firearms like pistols and rifles. Nobody uses nukes for personal self defense.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-04-2019, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Former land of plenty
3,212 posts, read 1,652,334 times
Reputation: 2017
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilot1 View Post
Strategic and tactical Nuclear weapons have absolutely no relationship to personal firearms like pistols and rifles. Nobody uses nukes for personal self defense.
So, does defense has to be personal to be legit?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-04-2019, 07:53 PM
 
46,281 posts, read 27,099,738 times
Reputation: 11126
Quote:
Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
When we try to denuclearize Iran or NK, is it the bomb or the people we are trying to eliminate?

Walmart realizes, by eliminating guns in their inventory, it is the guns and not their customers.



Are you saying that all those people that were doing the shootin in Walmart were also Walmart customers that bought their weapons/ammo there? WOW, where is this link....





If there are no people how can the bomb be built?


How does a gun shoot if it's not being held by a ........ I'll give you one chance at finishing the sentence....it starts with a "p"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-04-2019, 07:55 PM
 
19,966 posts, read 7,871,874 times
Reputation: 6556
Quote:
Originally Posted by elan View Post
Is WalMart's ammo from China?
Most of it is from the USA. Some of it in 7.62x39 (AK-47) and 5.56 (ar-15) is Russian and maybe Chinese I think, but no self respecting person would buy that junk.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-05-2019, 05:27 AM
 
7,420 posts, read 2,709,177 times
Reputation: 7783
Quote:
Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
Was it the gun, or the person?
The NRA has spent an insane amount of money brainwashing American citizens with catchy bumper-sticker type slogans similar to the above.

While it is true that guns are not going to just go around killing people on their own, let’s not be intentionally obtuse just for the sake of trying to win an argument.

While it is definitely true that a gun is unlikely to discharge on it’s own, to eliminate the gun from the equation of gun violence is like someone saying
1+1 doesn’t equal 2. It equals 1.

It is abundantly obvious that guns are an essential part of the equation of GUN violence.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-05-2019, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
34,231 posts, read 18,579,444 times
Reputation: 25802
^^^^^^^. The NRA doesn't even crack the top 50 of political donors. They are mostly public sector unions, Bloomberg, Soros, private sector unions, and similar. Mostly Democrat donors. Money talks. The NRA has very little power except gun owners VOTE.

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php?id=
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-05-2019, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
23,652 posts, read 13,987,571 times
Reputation: 18856
Quote:
Originally Posted by corpgypsy View Post
The NRA has spent an insane amount of money brainwashing American citizens with catchy bumper-sticker type slogans similar to the above.

While it is true that guns are not going to just go around killing people on their own, let’s not be intentionally obtuse just for the sake of trying to win an argument.

While it is definitely true that a gun is unlikely to discharge on it’s own, to eliminate the gun from the equation of gun violence is like someone saying
1+1 doesn’t equal 2. It equals 1.

It is abundantly obvious that guns are an essential part of the equation of GUN violence.

Bob and his friends are coming at you with base ball bats.



How are you going to stop them from doing violence on you?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-05-2019, 05:50 AM
 
Location: SE UK
14,820 posts, read 12,024,262 times
Reputation: 9813
Quote:
Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
Such as England? gun death down...what took it's place?


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47156957


They are blazing a trail alright....


29 shooting deaths vs. 285 knife deaths.....but I though guns were outlawed?
Knife crime statistics between the US and the UK are almost identical..................meanwhile about 60 (yes that's SIXTY) times more people are shot to death in the US than they are in the UK!!!! (and that's taking into account the population difference).


Hmmmmmm I wonder why that could be!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-05-2019, 06:41 AM
 
59,040 posts, read 27,306,837 times
Reputation: 14281
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilot1 View Post
Then amend the Constitution using the process already in place. The only reason politicians have any fear of the citizenry is because of the 2A. The only reason law abiding people can defend themselves is because of the 2A. To voluntarily want to give up this right is madness.
"Then amend the Constitution using the process already in place."


The anti's don't dare. They are afraid of the backlash from the voters. They will keep passing useless laws because in the past the dems controlled most courts and could get away with them.


With Trump getting more and more judges who go by the Constitution I see more challenges to these laws.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-05-2019, 06:43 AM
 
46,281 posts, read 27,099,738 times
Reputation: 11126
Quote:
Originally Posted by easthome View Post
Knife crime statistics between the US and the UK are almost identical..................meanwhile about 60 (yes that's SIXTY) times more people are shot to death in the US than they are in the UK!!!! (and that's taking into account the population difference).


Hmmmmmm I wonder why that could be!

WE have more people...duh....


Do tell, how can people be shot in the UK?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:03 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top