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Old 09-04-2019, 10:10 PM
 
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This really needs to be something we all research, educate ourselves on, and have down pat. More is coming out on this, soon. For those unaware, there is also a Special Federal Grand Jury in process investigating the controlled demolition of the WTC towers including building 7:
https://www.ae911truth.org/news/503-...center-on-9-11
...and the FBI is also in the process of being sued. What a wonder we don't hear about this on mainstream corporate news.

Fire Did Not Cause 3rd Tower’s Collapse on 9/11, New Study Finds
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"On September 11, 2001, at 5:20 PM, the 47-story World Trade Center Building 7 collapsed into its footprint, falling more than 100 feet at the rate of gravity for 2.5 seconds of its seven-second destruction.

Despite calls for the evidence to be preserved, New York City officials had the building's debris removed and destroyed in the ensuing weeks and months, preventing a proper forensic investigation from ever taking place. Seven years later, federal investigators concluded that WTC 7 was the first steel-framed high-rise ever to have collapsed solely as a result of normal office fires.

Today, we at Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth are pleased to partner with the University of Alaska Fairbanks (UAF) in releasing the draft report of a four-year computer modeling study of WTC 7’s collapse conducted by researchers in the university's Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering. The UAF WTC 7 report concludes that the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11 was caused not by fire but rather by the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building."
https://www.ae911truth.org/wtc7



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd7tqpwdlpQ
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:58 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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Well I'll wait to see the peer-reviewed copy. If it throws new light on the structural failures, that will be welcome for its engineering benefits.
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Old 09-04-2019, 11:02 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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9/11 was Bush's fault.
But Benghazi was an unplanned demonstration.
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Old 09-04-2019, 11:05 PM
 
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911 was the result of terrorists flying jets into buildings.

You can argue that it was allowed to happen (which I don't believe), but the idea the buildings were brought down via our government is insanity.
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Old 09-04-2019, 11:06 PM
 
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9/11 was Bush's faul.
Yeah, Bush should have jumped out of another plane and boarded each jet one by one to overpower the terrorists and land the planes.
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Old 09-04-2019, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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The UAF WTC 7 report concludes that the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11 was caused not by fire but rather by the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.
Gee, how much money did they spend to come to that conclusion?

No, the collapse wasn't caused directly by fire. The collapse was caused by having a 747 ram into the side of it. That is not what you would call a "normal" situation. I'm sure the codes have changed now, but at the time buildings were not made to withstand that kind of impact.
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Old 09-04-2019, 11:12 PM
 
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Gee, how much money did they spend to come to that conclusion?

No, the collapse wasn't caused directly by fire. The collapse was caused by having a 747 ram into the side of it. That is not what you would call a "normal" situation. I'm sure the codes have changed now, but at the time buildings were not made to withstand that kind of impact.
It wasn't a 747 and no plane hit WTC 7.

However, WTC 7 collapsed due to the attack.
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Old 09-04-2019, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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This really needs to be something we all research, educate ourselves on, and have down pat. More is coming out on this, soon. For those unaware, there is also a Special Federal Grand Jury in process investigating the controlled demolition of the WTC towers including building 7:
https://www.ae911truth.org/news/503-...center-on-9-11
...and the FBI is also in the process of being sued. What a wonder we don't hear about this on mainstream corporate news.

Fire Did Not Cause 3rd Tower’s Collapse on 9/11, New Study Finds
https://www.ae911truth.org/wtc7



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As a emergency responder on that day, I dont believe any thing the garbage site of ae911 says
oh please of those 1500 A+E...NONE of them have experience with skyscrapers, demolition, or structural engineering...one of the 'engineers' is a DENTAL engineer

it was not a controlled explosive demolition, not one milligram of explosive residue was ever found


and it did NOT fall within its own footprint, and the city did not dispose of the debris, all was maintained at the sifting site

Why is it when the twoofers talk about bld7, people never:

1. Admit that the building got BADLY damaged when the towers fell:

a) the entire front fascia was sheared off

b) a 12-16 story gash(hole) in the corner(main supports)(Proves the FACT that there was MASSIVE structural damage)

2. Admit that there was an entire ConED substation(electric plant) below the building. (this article PROVES the substation and the new one rebuilt in May04,, It also gives a good description of the transformers)

Lower Manhattan Development Corporation - GOVERNOR PATAKI JOINS CON EDISON TO MARK OPENING OF ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION AT 7 WORLD TRADE CENTER

3. Admit that the building had 20 or more back up generators (4 on the 23rd floor, 3 on the 7th floor, 14 on the 5th floor, 1 on the 8th floor w/fuel tank, 4 on the 46th floor, 1 on the 9th floor)(Proves the FACT of many things that could have BLOWN up within the building supporting the statements of "heard explosions")

4. Admit that the building had 22 main Transformers(which can explode if heated(full of oil))(some of them 2 stories tall) and 2 dry transformers (10 1st floor, 12 5th floor, 2 7th floor)(proves the FACT of more things that could have blown up)

5. Admit that the Fuel source for those generators was stored in the building and equaled 18 tankers (18,000 gallons on the 2nd floor, and 48,000 in the lower level, 300 gallons on the 23rd floor, 300 gallons on the 5th floor, 100 gallons on the 9th floor, 300 gallons on the 7th floor)(proves the FACT of a major fuel source, along with all the office furniture)

6. Admit the there was LP gas lines running throughout the building

7. Admit that the Penthouse fell FIRST

8. Admit that the building did NOT fall symmetrically it collapsed from the center(the north wall even covered the debris

9. Admit that it did NOT fall with in its footprint, it covered "barkley street" and caused SIGNIFICANT DAMAGED(fell onto) another building (30 west broadway) and the Verizon building( just some logic here cant be in its "own footprint if it went OUTSIDE of its footprint)(ABSOLUTELY proves that it was not a PERFECT symmetrical fall)

10. Admit that the FIREMEN, said the fire could not be CONTROLLED

A) I will give just two,,,,"We walked over by number Seven World Trade Center as it was burning and saw this 40-plus story building with fire on nearly all floors." –FDNY Lieutenant Robert LaRocca

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...HIC/9110081.PDF

b). The major concern at that time was number Seven, building number Seven, which had taken a big hit from the north tower. When it fell, it ripped steel out from between the third and sixth floors across the facade on Vesey Street. We were concerned that the fires on several floors and the missing steel would result in the building collapsing. –FDNY Chief Frank Fellini

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110217.PDF

11. Admit that there was a problem with the water supply(NO WATER)

12 the only mention "3 buildings" but not the other 10 buildings were destroyed that day in NYC

13. Admit that to wire a building.:

.......a) would take months.

.......b) beams would HAVE to be cut ,making the building NOT safe to go into for months prior to the collapse(proves that there is not way the building could have been imploded since monday sept 10 was a WORK DAY)

.......c) explosives don't like fire and heat

........d) that the term "pull" is NOT used in Explosive demos
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Old 09-04-2019, 11:13 PM
 
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Gee, how much money did they spend to come to that conclusion?

No, the collapse wasn't caused directly by fire. The collapse was caused by having a 747 ram into the side of it. That is not what you would call a "normal" situation. I'm sure the codes have changed now, but at the time buildings were not made to withstand that kind of impact.

This study was looking at WTC Building #7, which was never hit by a plane, but fell at free fall neatly into it's own footprint. Video of the collapse is here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hycank4AxBo
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Old 09-04-2019, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Gee, how much money did they spend to come to that conclusion?

No, the collapse wasn't caused directly by fire. The collapse was caused by having a 747 ram into the side of it. That is not what you would call a "normal" situation. I'm sure the codes have changed now, but at the time buildings were not made to withstand that kind of impact.
a plane didn't hit bldg. 7... tower 1 did
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