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Old 09-08-2019, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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This thread now belongs on the automotive thread not politics. Maybe we could get back to the DOJ anti-trust and reduced mileage requirements.
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Old 09-08-2019, 07:59 PM
 
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The average, maintained, Prius will do 250-400k on it’s original battery and transmission.

You don’t have a foot to stand on.
So can non-hybrid vehicles. The Prius transmission is not even really a CVT, it use a planetary gearset similar to a conventional automatic. Besides a Prius is a low performance car with below average driving dynamics.
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:02 PM
 
Location: AZ
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So can non-hybrid vehicles. The Prius transmission is not even really a CVT, it use a planetary gearset similar to a conventional automatic. Besides a Prius is a low performance car with below average driving dynamics.
And? Are you acknowledging reality , finally? Well-designed modern cars are more durable than anything just about anything that’s preceded them.

And for the fourth time, literally *no one* outside of enthusiasts gives two sharts about “driving dynamics”.

Are you done lying yet?
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:13 PM
 
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And? Are you acknowledging reality , finally? Well-designed modern cars are more durable than anything just about anything that’s preceded them.

And for the fourth time, literally *no one* outside of enthusiasts gives two sharts about “driving dynamics”.

Are you done lying yet?
No the latest models are not more durable than preceding design. Well designed and designed to maximize fuel economy are two separate things. And one doesn't have to be an enthusiast to not like the way a fuel mileage compromised car drives.
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:13 PM
 
Location: AZ
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No the latest models are not more durable than preceding design. Well designed and designed to maximize fuel economy are two separate things. And one doesn't have to be an enthusiast to not like the way a fuel mileage compromised car drives.
Prove it, or GTFO.
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:19 PM
 
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Whoa.... The Prius has a CVT... it's a Continuous Variable Transmission and does not have set ratios like an Automatic Transmission. You may want to learn a little more about cars before trying to say that a CVT is like an AT.

The Prius is a high performance car in terms of high fuel economy... what it is trying to achieve.
It is not really a CVT it has a planetary gear set https://auto.howstuffworks.com/hybrid-car7.htm
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:21 PM
 
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Prove it, or GTFO.
You should first prove your claims or GTFO.
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:24 PM
 
Location: AZ
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You should first prove your claims or GTFO.
The onus is on you, the poster that originally made the statements.

You’ve yet to provide proof for anything, and insist that your lies are the factual.

So again, where’s your evidence?
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:40 PM
 
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I've familiar with them. I've taken them apart and put them back together. The planetary gear set is a CVT. It's a continuous variable transmission that allows for to power inputs (ice + motor). Your source even mentions this.
The Prius transmission provides variable speed ratios but through a planetary gearbox and electric motor but a planetary gearbox is what a conventional automatic uses. A normal CVT uses pulleys and a belt to provide variable speed which leads to problems.
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Old 09-08-2019, 11:27 PM
 
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> Electric Steering is more reliable due to fewer moving parts.

If you are referring to "drive by wire" systems those fewer moving parts provide a direct mechanical linkage between the steering wheel and the tires. Although it would be difficult to move if everything failed on the car at once you would still have steering.
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