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Old 09-06-2019, 05:51 PM
 
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thought it was the onion...just watching all the states rights people having a gafaw is uplifting
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Old 09-06-2019, 05:53 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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You really couldn't make this stuff up......

We all know Trump wants to use more fossil fuels and pollute more, but trying to use the DJI - which has better things to do - to work against cleaner air, more efficiency and more MPG???? His "opposite world" EPA is chiming in too.....they want to do the opposite of what they exist for!

Even "conservatives" can't be buying this nonsense? Doesn't "conservatism" come from "conserve"?

Cars are long term investments and rollbacks can sentence people far into the future on spending more money for fuel than they need to.

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/clim...54a_story.html
The Left coast doesn't get to make the call. Cars are not "investments" BTW.
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Old 09-06-2019, 05:56 PM
 
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Oh so tell how your civil rights were violated **chuckle snort**.

California only dictated California, didn’t it?
Not when non-CA vehicles are manufactured to CARB standards and not Federal standards. If California or a local government appropriates a federal commerce duty affecting the emissions standards of my vehicle then it's violating the constitution and my civil rights.
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Old 09-06-2019, 06:01 PM
 
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States rights. Deal with it.
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Old 09-06-2019, 06:05 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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I'd like the car manufacturers to huild cars to federal standards. Maybe when califorbians can't buy new cars, they will start electing normal people.
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Old 09-06-2019, 06:07 PM
 
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Not when non-CA vehicles are manufactured to CARB standards and not Federal standards. If California or a local government appropriates a federal commerce duty affecting the emissions standards of my vehicle then it's violating the constitution and my civil rights.
Private enterprise creating a product based on their own voluntary standards violates your civil rights?
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Old 09-06-2019, 06:09 PM
 
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States rights. Deal with it.
You can't have states with different automotive emissions, fuel mileage or safety standards because it would affect interstate commerce.
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Old 09-06-2019, 06:11 PM
 
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Private enterprise creating a product based on their own voluntary standards violates your civil rights?
It's based on the CA standards. If dropped the CA standards and the Federal standards the product would be made differently (and better and more affordable other than not made to those standards)
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Old 09-06-2019, 06:13 PM
 
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It's based on the CA standards. If dropped the CA standards and the Federal standards the product would be made differently (and better and more affordable other than not made to those standards)
You want the federal government to tell companies that they cannot exceed standards? How very communist of you. Would you like a Trabant?

Is someone stopping you from forming your own car company?

Where do your civil rights come into play?
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Old 09-06-2019, 06:15 PM
 
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You can't have states with different automotive emissions, fuel mileage or safety standards because it would affect interstate commerce.
No it wouldn’t.
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