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As I've already told you the child can't speak. Linguistic capabilities must be what give humans rights in that case?
Anyways that is only the tip of the iceberg for your problems. If consent is the default position (a ludicrous claim) then you can walk up to a person and punch them in the face and they can't be at blame since said person never told them not to.
What child?
I thought you were locked in a cage against your will?
Though I'm not quite a Libertarian, the OP's objection has merit. No one asked to be born (or refused it). And yet, here are. To kill oneself, from peeved feeling of violation, or despair of living to live, isn't the same, as to undo the reality of having been born. And none of this would matter, if on the whole we would be satisfied with the human-condition, or even if unsatisfied, if we laconically accepted the reality of being alive and of facing life's burdens.
Well, one solution is human extinction, through voluntary non-reproduction... if we come to espouse the idea, that creating any new sentient life is an affront against said life. That would neatly solve our various political squabbles and philosophical laments.
Another solution would be to just shut-up-and-color, accepting life's endemic unfairness and making the best of it. Neither option is, I think, of unalloyed appeal. We face a problem, don't we? I don't have a satisfactory answer.
Was watching and waiting for the antinatalist to show up to this...whatever it is.
He can kick and scream, but that's all. So without linguistic capabilities a human forfeits their autonomous rights?
Is speech the sole form of human communication? Damn we must not be communicating.
I figure a kid kicking and screaming probably means whatever you're doing is against their will. Pro tip, if the girl you met in the bar is kicking and screaming, you might want to stop, because that's not consent.
I thought you were locked in a cage against your will?
oh god.
I can speak, so I can refuse consent. But a child can't. That's the problem with assuming consent. If I walk up and punch you in the face you never told me not to so by your logic its fine.
Is speech the sole form of human communication? Damn we must not be communicating.
I figure a kid kicking and screaming probably means whatever you're doing is against their will. Pro tip, if the girl you met in the bar is kicking and screaming, you might want to stop, because that's not consent.
Ok cool. So when your kid is crying you'll never leave him in a crib to rest.
I can speak, so I can refuse consent. But a child can't. That's the problem with assuming consent. If I walk up and punch you in the face you never told me not to so by your logic its fine.
Ok cool. So when your kid is crying you'll never leave him in a crib to rest.
Are you being purposely obtuse?
Jeez I don't even have kids and can tell the difference between the "get your stinkin' hands off me" cry, and the I'm hungry cry, and the my diaper needs changing cry, and the I'm tired and want to sleep cry.
Come on. It was clear that I was responding to Gungnir’s claim that kicking and screaming = against a child’s will and comparison of a kicking and screaming child to a kicking and screaming adult.
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