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Old 09-12-2019, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by banjomike View Post
No. The Democratic list of contenders wasn't long at all.
At first, it was Clinton, O'Malley, Chafee, Webb, and Lessig. That's less than the average number of starters for either party. Bernie entered the race after 3 had already quit.

Of those early 3, only O'Malley had any name recognition. That's largely why Clinton settled in as the top contender so early and so soon.

It was a lot like the GOP's situation in 2008. In 2007, their field was small, and McCain had a lot of name recognition. By early 2008, McCain was the only guy left in the field.

Only Romney was as well known, possibly. Huckabee wasn't back then, and neither was Ron Paul. Once they dropped out, McCain had the field to himself, even when Paul continued. Paul was like Bernie in 2016.
there was 6... that is a long list for a shoe-win

Clinton entered first...2nd was Bernie....there was also a draft for a 7th (Elizabeth warren)but she decided to run for senate instead

the current dem list is ~22 (not sure who has officially dropped, I know a few have)

 
Old 09-12-2019, 04:34 PM
 
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If you democrats are lucky, none of the long list will make it.
 
Old 09-12-2019, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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there was 6... that is a long list for a shoe-win

Clinton entered first...2nd was Bernie....there was also a draft for a 7th (Elizabeth warren)but she decided to run for senate instead

the current dem list is ~22 (not sure who has officially dropped, I know a few have)
Not so unusual. The typical number when there's no incumbent is 6 or more. The GOP field in 2016 was considered to be large.
 
Old 09-12-2019, 09:15 PM
 
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Even though there were people clearly far more qualified?

It would be funny if Democrats had fallen into that same trap and ended up with Marianne Williamson.

That's fine. She's one of the people I was thinking of voting for although I probably will be the only one voting because I'm forever in the minority so I guess that's bad when you think about it.
 
Old 09-12-2019, 09:57 PM
 
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And we ended up with a great president
Very true.
 
Old 09-13-2019, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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And we ended up with a great president
He hurdled a low bar. The ones in recent times, before him, were garbage.
 
Old 09-13-2019, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Trump was the only one that could have beat Hillary.
Actually he had the best chance of losing, and actually did end up losing the popular vote. Any other candidate would have had an easier time to beat her.

It is too bad GOP voters do not stick by their principles when they vote. If they did, we'd have conservative presidents, not neo-cons and big-spending populist idiots.

Rand Paul was the best choice, and I think he should challenge Trump next year, but it seems GOP is too afraid to have anyone challenge him/
 
Old 09-13-2019, 02:52 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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The biggest surprise for me was how Jeb Bush lost. I think it was the illegal immigration topic that cost Jeb the race; being the sole candidate with an anti-immigration platform pushed DT to the top of the heap. He successfully tapped into a deep vein of xenophobia, whereas Dubya won on a pro-Latinxyz policy and Jeb probably figured he could follow suit. The great recession may have exacerbated that anti-illegal movement; perhaps from the competition for jobs.
 
Old 09-13-2019, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The biggest surprise for me was how Jeb Bush lost. I think it was the illegal immigration topic that cost Jeb the race; being the sole candidate with an anti-immigration platform pushed DT to the top of the heap. He successfully tapped into a deep vein of xenophobia, whereas Dubya won on a pro-Latinxyz policy and Jeb probably figured he could follow suit. The great recession may have exacerbated that anti-illegal movement; perhaps from the competition for jobs.
low energy Jeb, was the RNC's boy
 
Old 09-13-2019, 04:33 PM
 
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Even though there were people clearly far more qualified?

It would be funny if Democrats had fallen into that same trap and ended up with Marianne Williamson.
We got Trump because no one wanted Hillary. Or any of the other pack of idiots the left offered.
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