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Old 09-16-2019, 11:38 AM
 
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The only country that really needs higher oil prices right now is USA (hint: shale oil profitability point).

Hmm, who would have launched an attack, for which US-made antimissile systems didn't work?
Oh, yeah, right, that's Iran - for which oil prices makes no difference whatsoever (hint: sanctions), and it just wants to help US shale oil companies.

"L - Logic".
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:42 AM
 
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The article is here:


Saudi Arabia oil facility attack launched from Iranian soil, US officials say
https://www.foxnews.com/world/saudi-...l-us-officials
US officials also say the Russia hacked the US presidential election, but Trump tells us not to believe that.
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:47 AM
 
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My opinion is that the only way that the USA will have some international credibility in the future is after a full term with a different president.
It could take the full terms of several good presidents before we restore any sense of honor and credibility to the USA ... and even that might not be enough until after we have instituted some of the many needed reforms of, and restraints on, presidential powers.
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:47 AM
 
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You don't know that, the connection between the Houthis and Iranians is little to less.

If anything motive points towards the US or Israel.
I could give you dozens, hundreds of articles from media ranging from Reuters to Al-Monitor to the AP to the Brookings Institute about Iran's support for the Houthi. But I know that even if I took that time you'd stick to what you wrote.
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Gas is up 30 cents near me. Let's see how high we go on this one.
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:52 AM
 
Location: New Market, MD
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Trump is really an A-hole and is in pocket of Saudi's. Not sure why the hell he is telling Saudi's we are locked and ready? Let them find out who did it and let them handle. Why US is in the picture?
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:52 AM
 
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Gas is up 30 cents near me. Let's see how high we go on this one.
Mine hadn't budged this morning, still $2.34. They are looking for any excuse to raise it though.
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:54 AM
 
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Gas is up 30 cents near me. Let's see how high we go on this one.
That’s crazy. The price hasn’t changed near us in San Diego. That may be because it’s sky high already.
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:02 PM
 
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I could give you dozens, hundreds of articles from media ranging from Reuters to Al-Monitor to the AP to the Brookings Institute about Iran's support for the Houthi. But I know that even if I took that time you'd stick to what you wrote.
The two big sponsors of this client warfare tearing Yemen apart hate one another. Why? ... because of their sectarian differences in the Muslim religion.

There is no doubt that Iran supports the Shiite Houthi to the best of their ability, which is inhibited to some great extent by the geography of the region. It is also true that the Saudis support the faltering Sunni government of Yemen, if only to keep Shiites from gaining power there. If these were two Sunni factions fighting a civil war or two Shiite factions fighting a civil war we would not be hearing about any of this. We would not be any more involved than we were when the factions within Rwanda were butchering one another.

So now Saudi Arabia has a client in Yemen and Iran has a client in Yemen, and they are fighting a brutal proxy war which is threatening to boil over.

We (the USA) have no business getting involved in struggles between those two Muslim giants half way around the world. We can not win in a dirty knife fight between Muslims, we only stand to lose.
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Wait, is Pompeo or the guy in the White House basing anything on facts from the US Intelligence Agencies? If they are, this would certainly be a first. Me? I'm waiting for the pics so the Sharpie drawings can tell the real story.
Trump can make the case for war with his sharpie like he did with hurricane Dorian hitting Alabama. Bush had the same idea, but he was more high-tech about it with doctored satellite images etc.
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