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Old 09-16-2019, 06:08 PM
 
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Actually, it started when the US assassinated their first elected president in 1952 and installed a ruthless dictator in his place.

The hostage situation occurred when the US then gave that dictator asylum after he was ousted.

And let's not forget that a few years later, the US shot down an Iranian civilian jumbo jet and killed 290 civilians.
Don't forget the war with Iraq. America paid Saddam to attack Iran, gave them weapons and all kinds of support. Like all meddling America seems to do it failed.
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:09 PM
 
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Google Operation Ajax... We overthrew the anti-Communist Pro West Mossedeq and installed the bloodthirsty Shah of Iran. Why...SOS...oil.
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:22 PM
 
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Or that the US backed Saddam Hussein in the Iran-Iraq war that cost one million Iranian lives.
That too!

How could I forget--I actually helped prepare some bomb damage assessment reports for Iraq, showing them the results of their SCUD attacks on Tehran.
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:25 PM
 
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Don't forget the war with Iraq. America paid Saddam to attack Iran, gave them weapons and all kinds of support. Like all meddling America seems to do it failed.
And the goofy thing about that...Iraq was always majority Shiite. Saddam had kept the Shiite majority under control through sheer violence.

Then the US removed Saddam and set up fairly honest elections. Surprise, surprise, surprise, the majority Shiites won. So the US essentially handed Iraq to Iran.

The sad thing is that a lot of intelligence analysts in the US saw that coming a mile away.
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:25 PM
 
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I think the 'eye for an eye' approach is works better. Iran captures an oil tanker? 'We' take on of theirs. Iran attacks oil infrastructure? 'We bomb one of their refineries'. The only question is, who is 'we'? In my opinion SA should strike back (with US operational assistance). But the problem is that SA is reluctant to be dragged into a war. Maybe dial 1-800-ISRAEL for support?
Trump has destabilized the middle east with his withdrawing from the Iran Agreement. I guess now he's waiting on SA to tell him what to do.
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:26 PM
 
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What I don't understand is anytime there is any kind of disruption in oil production, the price of gas at the pump goes up immediately. But if for any reason there is an oil glut or excess, it takes months for the price of gas at the pump to go down.


The same thing applies to bank drafts. Use your debit or credit card and your money is gone immediately. Contest something or get a credit authorized and its weeks before you get your money back.
It's all rigged. Anytime a gnat farts it goes up right away and is slowwwwwwwwwwww to come down like a clown. That whole part of the world needs to be gassed.
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:27 PM
 
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This sounds more like a wish than a prediction.
No wish. The day is coming just before end comes when it goes past 12 a gal.
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:28 PM
 
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You sound like a Trump voter, no?
Never voted in my life.
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Trump has destabilized the middle east with his withdrawing from the Iran Agreement. I guess now he's waiting on SA to tell him what to do.
Standing up to the Iranians will do a lot to stabilize the ME long term, but some can only think about today, and not doing what is necessary for tomorrow. Ever play Chess? The Iranians don't respect appeasement like the weak, feminized Obama gave them.
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:30 PM
 
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Everything you buy will be more expensive. Your electric car isn't saving you from that.
Takes power to charge it so there is not get out of jail card with a elect car.
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