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Old 09-15-2019, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Florida
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There is whole lot of nonsense in that post. Bernie was my guy, but he lost bigly. The polls were decided long before the Tulsi swoon. She can still get in if she gets a couple points in a poll. Tom Steyer did. Tulsi is on the ballot in Iowa and the debates won't matter there.

Maybe Tulsi should run as a Republican as it appears that Republicans like her more than Democrats do. Oh, never mind, the primaries are being cancelled so Trump has no opponents. At least the Dems are holding primaries.
She should run as a Republican or Libertarian. Why would Dems go for a candidate Republicans are pushing? Duh. And a reminder--the fact that Bernie only became a Dem for the money and infrastructure is not and never has been lost on Democrats.

As far as party cheating, the GOP is in the process of canceling state Republican Primaries because Trump is scared.

This is how Trump is running their party--by fear and dictatorship. Hardly credible enough to be giving Dems advice and criticism.
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Old 09-15-2019, 01:09 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 24 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa View Post
There is whole lot of nonsense in that post. Bernie was my guy, but he lost bigly. The polls were decided long before the Tulsi swoon. She can still get in if she gets a couple points in a poll. Tom Steyer did. Tulsi is on the ballot in Iowa and the debates won't matter there.

Maybe Tulsi should run as a Republican as it appears that Republicans like her more than Democrats do. Oh, never mind, the primaries are being cancelled so Trump has no opponents. At least the Dems are holding primaries.
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She should run as a Republican or Libertarian. Why would Dems go for a candidate Republicans are pushing? Duh. And a reminder--the fact that Bernie only became a Dem for the money and infrastructure is not and never has been lost on Democrats.

As far as party cheating, the GOP is in the process of canceling state Republican Primaries because Trump is scared.

This is how Trump is running their party--by fear and dictatorship. Hardly credible enough to be giving Dems advice and criticism.
The most interesting part about this is that the only reason Tulsi is even this close is because of polls that take into account "all adults"

In the polls that release party affiliation results, she is always below 1%. Her supporters are mostly Republicans who plan on voting in the Democratic Primary and independents.
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Old 09-15-2019, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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So far Tom Perez appears pretty fair to me. Would having 20-25 candidates in every debate they cared to stick around for been good thru February or beyond? No. Some culling is understandable.


I dunno if Bill Clinton, Obama, Hillary Clinton or any other former nominees will get around to making endorsements. Staying on sidelines is easy. I think they probably should endorse at some point but so far it is looking like they won't.
They won't, nor should they, endorse in a hotly contested primary. They will all rally behind the nominee, whoever that turns out to be, and not have any record out there of them saying Candidate A is better than the eventual nominee, Candidate B.
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Old 09-15-2019, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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No. There were zero credible candidates running against him. Just a few vanity opponents, the people who pay the filing fee just to see their name on the ballot.

Trump has credible and experienced opposition in Walsh, Weld and Sanford -- two former governors and an ex-Congressman. The RNC is being very anti-democracy for canceling primaries. Let the people vote.
nope...

yes you "could" say that there was no-credible candidates...but they were credible enough to run and primary him..but primaries were cancelled in 13 states including NY, AZ, UT, CO, ME, WA, ID, SD, ND, SC, FL, and WY

as to Walsh, Weld and Sanford...all duds, not really credible....credible enough to run, but not credible to make a real challenge...and its up to the states... its not a dnc/rnc call
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Old 09-15-2019, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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She should run as a Republican or Libertarian. Why would Dems go for a candidate Republicans are pushing? Duh. And a reminder--the fact that Bernie only became a Dem for the money and infrastructure is not and never has been lost on Democrats.

As far as party cheating, the GOP is in the process of canceling state Republican Primaries because Trump is scared.

This is how Trump is running their party--by fear and dictatorship. Hardly credible enough to be giving Dems advice and criticism.
she is a democrat... a true democrat, not part of the wicked left

and MAJOR Gabbard is an honorable woman.....what dems don't like is she is more a Truman Democrat than the current lot of fascio-socialists/communists.....the liberals have moved so far left, you might as well say they are running for president of the USSA
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Old 09-15-2019, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Exactly. Republicans are well known to cheat in primaries and elections not to mention their gerrymandering. Just look at what has happened in NC.
gerrymandering started and was perfected by the democrats...its even NAMED after the democrat Gerry
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Old 09-15-2019, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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she is a democrat... a true democrat, not part of the wicked left

and MAJOR Gabbard is an honorable woman.....what dems don't like is she is more a Truman Democrat than the current lot of fascio-socialists/communists.....the liberals have moved so far left, you might as well say they are running for president of the USSA
Gabbard isn't anything at all like a Truman Democrat.

Though an honorable woman, as you say, she's also solidly a leftward liberal who's pretty close in her policies to the others in the race. If you are going to call the field fascio-socialists/communists, you had better include her, because she's there with the rest of them.
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Old 09-15-2019, 01:32 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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nope...

yes you "could" say that there was no-credible candidates...but they were credible enough to run and primary him..but primaries were cancelled in 13 states including NY, AZ, UT, CO, ME, WA, ID, SD, ND, SC, FL, and WY

as to Walsh, Weld and Sanford...all duds, not really credible....credible enough to run, but not credible to make a real challenge...and its up to the states... its not a dnc/rnc call
I explained to you the flaw in your argument in a Previous post, I can go state by state if you like.

The DNC did not cancel a single primary. the individual states did because no other candidate qualified to be on the ballot. That was only in 4 states.

As far as I can tell, the other states listed do not have primaries at all if only 1 candidate qualifies(there for there was no need to cancel, it was just a mechanism of the state election law). In fact, in Florida, if a candidate wins the primary and there is no candidate from the other party, there isnt even a general election held.
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Old 09-15-2019, 01:35 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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gerrymandering started and was perfected by the democrats...its even NAMED after the democrat Gerry
In 1812, what you define as the Democratic Party was actually the Democratic-Republican Party and what you know today as the Republican Party didnt exist yet.
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Old 09-15-2019, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Gabbard isn't anything at all like a Truman Democrat.

Though an honorable woman, as you say, she's also solidly a leftward liberal who's pretty close in her policies to the others in the race. If you are going to call the field fascio-socialists/communists, you had better include her, because she's there with the rest of them.
don't get me wrong

Truman was a leftist...but not nearly as left as some

Gabbard is a leftist also..but not even close to the rest of the lot

She is more like a Truman democrat,, strong social net, AND strong national defense

I had the honor to serve with Major Gabbard about a decade ago, before I retired, she is straight up an honorable person/Soldier

what I would like to see is Biden/Gabbard and then after 4, Gabbard takes POTUS

I am not above voting for a democrat.. but I have no use for these super far left idiots like Beto/Harris/Sanders/Warren they are so far left you might as well call them communists, because that IS their talking points
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