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Old 09-16-2019, 07:12 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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she is a democrat... a true democrat, not part of the wicked left

and MAJOR Gabbard is an honorable woman.....what dems don't like is she is more a Truman Democrat than the current lot of fascio-socialists/communists.....the liberals have moved so far left, you might as well say they are running for president of the USSA
Ouch. Looks like your girl Tulsi is out there telling everyone that Trump is SA's bi***.

She IS right about that; I'll give her that.
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:36 PM
 
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Humph! Talk about cheating! What about the Republican Party not holding Primaries in several states? Republicans are cheating Gov. Bill Weld, Gov. Mark Sanford, and Rep. Joe Walsh.

So that idiot Trump is the only choice Republican primate voters have.

Some day, when Trump is named as the stupidest President in American history, it will be a huge embarrassment to the Republican Party. In fact, it would not be surprising if he isn’t the death knell of the Republican Oarty.
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Old 09-16-2019, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Tulsi's policies are pretty much aligned with Bernie's, she indorsed him back in 2016 after all. The main reason why Republicans/libertarians support/respect her is because she's a veteran, she is against regime change wars, and she supports boarder control (though she doesn't think it needs to be done with a wall from sea to shining sea.), she is also aware of the threat posed by the Saudi Wahabi/Salafist ideology that is the backbone of Islamic terrorists, and because of that she is warry of the flood of refugees coming from that part of the world since it would only take a few sympathizers to cause a lot of harm to this country. She also appears to be more fiscally responsible since if people ask her "where does the money come from" she would just answer that it comes from the money that we are currently spending on these wasteful wars. Whereas other candidates would have to answer by saying increasing taxes of one form or another. Also it doesn't hurt that she is attractive.

Of course most people don't like to delve into nuance, so if they see that a person is getting any support from their competitors they will shun them.
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Old 09-16-2019, 10:16 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Tulsi's policies are pretty much aligned with Bernie's, she indorsed him back in 2016 after all. The main reason why Republicans/libertarians support/respect her is because she's a veteran, she is against regime change wars, and she supports boarder control (though she doesn't think it needs to be done with a wall from sea to shining sea.), she is also aware of the threat posed by the Saudi Wahabi/Salafist ideology that is the backbone of Islamic terrorists, and because of that she is warry of the flood of refugees coming from that part of the world since it would only take a few sympathizers to cause a lot of harm to this country. She also appears to be more fiscally responsible since if people ask her "where does the money come from" she would just answer that it comes from the money that we are currently spending on these wasteful wars. Whereas other candidates would have to answer by saying increasing taxes of one form or another. Also it doesn't hurt that she is attractive.

Of course most people don't like to delve into nuance, so if they see that a person is getting any support from their competitors they will shun them.
If this was true, Pete Buttigieg would be the leading candidate among Republicans.

No, they like her because she is a Christian fundamentalist along with her father.

Also, you used the phrase fiscally responsible wrong. How you pay for something has nothing to do with fiscally responsibility.
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Old 09-16-2019, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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If this was true, Pete Buttigieg would be the leading candidate among Republicans.

No, they like her because she is a Christian fundamentalist along with her father.

Also, you used the phrase fiscally responsible wrong. How you pay for something has nothing to do with fiscally responsibility.
Nope. Tulsi is a practicing Hindu.
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Old 09-17-2019, 12:04 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Nope. Tulsi is a practicing Hindu.

Instead of me being argumentative let me say it this way.

Gabbard has a documented history of working for her fathers(he is catholic) christian organization as well as the other groups he worked with. she can call herself Hindu, and maybe she really did convert. but for all of her childhood and adulthood she acted as a fundamentalist Christian right in her fathers footsteps.
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Old 09-17-2019, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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If this was true, Pete Buttigieg would be the leading candidate among Republicans.

No, they like her because she is a Christian fundamentalist along with her father.

Also, you used the phrase fiscally responsible wrong. How you pay for something has nothing to do with fiscally responsibility.
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Nope. Tulsi is a practicing Hindu.
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Instead of me being argumentative let me say it this way.

Gabbard has a documented history of working for her fathers(he is catholic) christian organization as well as the other groups he worked with. she can call herself Hindu, and maybe she really did convert. but for all of her childhood and adulthood she acted as a fundamentalist Christian
right in her fathers footsteps.
Exhibit A of a politician folks. Poster gets called out for being factually incorrect, then flips the script to say Tulsi "acted as a fundamentalist Christian" even though she's Hindu. Not to mention that "fundamentalist Christians" are on the completely different end of the religious spectrum from Catholics

Let's see exhibit B for how he'll flip these facts

Or he could just admit he was completely wrong..........
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Old 09-17-2019, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Instead of me being argumentative let me say it this way.

Gabbard has a documented history of working for her fathers(he is catholic) christian organization as well as the other groups he worked with. she can call herself Hindu, and maybe she really did convert. but for all of her childhood and adulthood she acted as a fundamentalist Christian right in her fathers footsteps.
Tulsi's mother is Hindu. Tulsi converted when she was a teenager, and since then has professed no other religion.

According to her bio, her parents never made an issue of their faith for their kids. Their children could go with either parent to church as they pleased. Some became Catholic, some didn't.

Since when has the Catholic church been a 'fundamentalist' religion?

There's about 70 million Catholics who would disagree with that ludicrous notion, and they're just the committed Democrats.

There are many reasons why Gabbard is not as popular with the Democrats as the leading contenders are, but her religion isn't one of them. Nor is her father's religion.

Trying to make out that it is so is a far stretch. Trying to connect her own faith to her father's is an even farther stretch. It's not at all unusual for kids to help their folks out when parents have causes; duty to parents is a part of childhood.
It means nothing at all though when it comes to making a claim that the help makes a child an advocate for the parent's cause. It doesn't and it never has.
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Old 09-17-2019, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Tulsi Gabbard surged in the new NBC/WSJ poll just released. She is now tied with "none" as the choice of Democratic primary voters.
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Old 09-18-2019, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Regime change was the reason we went to war in 2003. Regime change is also the reason why the Taliban keep fighting.

It's also the reason for the civil wars in Syria and Yemen. And the reason why Libya killed its dictator.

Gabbard can't have it both ways. There's no way to oppose Islamic terrorism without regime change when any nation supports terrorists.
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