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Old 09-16-2019, 05:23 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by trobesmom View Post
We don't live in a dictatorship, although Trump is trying his damnedest to make it one. If I don't have a problem under somebody like that, you guys should be even more fine with it.
Did you miss the part where he said it's illegal to register? So you want him to do something illegally?
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:24 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Sounds unconstitutional to me. I doubt it ever becomes law.
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Being a car owner is not covered in the Constitution......the ability to have arms is.
I'm outraged! Why in the hell did the Founding Fathers not make owning a car a right?!

SMH
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:25 PM
 
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Did you miss the part where he said it's illegal to register? So you want him to do something illegally?
Not at all. I'm wasn't talking about him specifically. I'm talking about all those who are so scared of registering their guns.

It's just so crazy, people wanting to hide away in their houses loaded with firearms. Like they would be any resistance against the military anyway. Makes me laugh.
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by trobesmom View Post
Nobody is taking your rights. But all these gun conversations sure help us all pass the time, don't they?
suggest you brush up on your history

the fascio-socialist liberals will never tell you these few other pieces of history
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When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. – Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President of the United States
the 2nd amendment is very specific.........the RIGHT of the PEOPLE shall not be INFRINGED



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""""That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and their own state, or the United States, or for the purpose of killing game; and no law shall be passed for disarming the people or any of them, unless for crimes committed, or real danger of public injury from individuals ..."""-- James Madison
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meanwhile leftists have for a century been looking to take away the guns....why...power over the people



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This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future! – Adolph Hitler, 1935, on The Weapons Act of Nazi Germany


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"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subordinate people to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subordinate people to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." --Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations


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"Waiting periods are only a step., Registration is only a step., The prohibition of private firearms is the goal." Janet Reno




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"Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed
when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed." Sarah Brady



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"We're bending the law as far as we can to ban... guns." Rahm Emmanuel



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"There is no reason for anyone in this country -- anyone except a police officer or military person -- to buy, to own, to have, to use a handgun. The only way to control handgun use in this country is to prohibit all guns." Bill Clinton


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"A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the people." Vladimir Ilyich Lenin



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"If the opposition (citizen) disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves." Josef Stalin
interesting how the liberals, fascists, nazi's, communists are the ones who want gun control....hmm




the anti-gun people (and yes many are liberals) never can figure out that they are hurting the law abiding citizens, because crooks/criminals/scum dont care about the laws or restrictions on getting a gun


Communist Rules for Revolution:

1. Corrupt the young; get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial; destroy their ruggedness.
2. By specious argument cause the breakdown of old moral virtues; honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.
3. Encourage civil disorders and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.
4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.
5. Get people's minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books, plays, and other trivialities.
6. Get control of all means of publicity.
7. Destroy the people's faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and obloquy (disgrace).
8. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscation and leaving the population helpless.





yep liberals (fascists) and their goal to disarm the people


and they cant even figure out what the 2nd amendment means.. or how abolishing it would also abolish the 1st, 4th, and 5th amendments too
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
suggest you brush up on your history

the fascio-socialist liberals will never tell you these few other pieces of history
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the 2nd amendment is very specific.........the RIGHT of the PEOPLE shall not be INFRINGED



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interesting how the liberals, fascists, nazi's, communists are the ones who want gun control....hmm




the anti-gun people (and yes many are liberals) never can figure out that they are hurting the law abiding citizens, because crooks/criminals/scum dont care about the laws or restrictions on getting a gun


Communist Rules for Revolution:

1. Corrupt the young; get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial; destroy their ruggedness.
2. By specious argument cause the breakdown of old moral virtues; honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.
3. Encourage civil disorders and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.
4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.
5. Get people's minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books, plays, and other trivialities.
6. Get control of all means of publicity.
7. Destroy the people's faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and obloquy (disgrace).
8. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscation and leaving the population helpless.





yep liberals (fascists) and their goal to disarm the people


and they cant even figure out what the 2nd amendment means.. or how abolishing it would also abolish the 1st, 4th, and 5th amendments too
And yet here we are. Up to our eyeballs in guns. I honestly don't know how some people sleep at night, with so much fear of being overtaken. Must be hard to live like that.
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by trobesmom View Post
Not at all. I'm wasn't talking about him specifically. I'm talking about all those who are so scared of registering their guns.

It's just so crazy, people wanting to hide away in their houses loaded with firearms. Like they would be any resistance against the military anyway. Makes me laugh.
What makes me laugh is anyone thinking that the Govt knowing what you have inside your house is any of their business. The military is us. Almost all my friends and family are retired military. Maybe that's why we know not to trust the govt.

The Govt, the same one you trust, sends us to wars we shouldn't be in.
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:48 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Great idea. A lot of us have been buttonholing legislators to demand documentation of all transfers of any type of powder-actuated firearm, public or private.

Looks like they're starting to listen.
problem is the bad guys about to wreak havoc simply won't abide by that law.


just the people who will never harm anyone with a firearm will be restricted...


listening???????


to what? befuddled and confused rambling?????


booker is a drama queen, making Trump look like a stuffed shirt and Blumenthal is a certified liar.


put their heads together and can't figure out whose head belongs to who


WARNING! non lawyers cannot CORRECTLY INTERPRET what legislation, written in legalese, actually means.


Sounds like the dastardly duo want the feds to issue permits as required for suppressors. Maybe an oops, perhaps NJ and other states can now purchase suppressors with a federal tax stamp.


NJ already requires a firearm id, prints are run by the FBI, medical records searched and of course a NICS check. With all that red tape, Newark, the town CB was mayor of, had a daily bag limit of 2plus a week, up from an unbroken string of monthly murders since the 1960s.


Are there no sane legislators interested in solving problems??????????


Listening to Booker and Blu are like being part of a bad real life comedy show from which you cannot escape and which cause you to throw up whenever they speak... 'The Prisoner" comes to mind.... roy thinnes starred
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by Joe the Photog View Post
I'm outraged! Why in the hell did the Founding Fathers not make owning a car a right?!

SMH
It's a shame. Had they made owning a car a right the amendment probably would have said something like...........

"A well regulated race car team........."
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:00 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Woody01 View Post
Sponsored by Cory Booker and Blumenthal.....read it carefully...... Although it may sound harmless to some liberals, this one is one step away from tyranny.

"The bill will make it “unlawful for any individual to purchase or receive a firearm unless the individual has a valid Federal firearms license.”

That’s big.

What’s needed to get the magic “license”? The US Attorney General will establish the system for issuing said permission slips, based on a number of shocking “S. 2449” mandates that ought to energize anyone who respects his neighbor’s right to self-defense, medical privacy, inheritance, private trade, and personal data."


Here's the bill:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bil.../s2449/text/is

Here's analysis from MRC:
https://www.mrctv.org/blog/no-time-t...seregistration
You don’t license a right. Unconstitutional. This bill is DOA.
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