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I'm guessing this person has never really been sexually assaulted. Because if she had, she wouldn't be comparing this to an actual rape. It's not even in the same ballpark. I would find the man's behavior heinous but it's not rape.
I read somewhere if two consenting adults have sex, and the woman was drunk at the time, then it actually was not consentual and thus rape.
Oh! So sex without clear “verbal or physical” consent is rape...who would be angry about that?
(MU- Which part is about about dinner?)
The dinner was mostly an example. The law doesn't use that word. It's about seducing a woman, including with a "romantic dinner". At the rate we're going, a woman will be signing a legal waiver before allowing a man to have sex with her. The man will be required to sign the waiver as well, to assume any and all legal risks of engaging in sex, including withdrawal (no pun intended) of consent after the fact. All stamped by a public notary for good measure.
Of course, it seems like only straight sex is like this. What about sex between LGBT persons? It doesn't seem to have the same problems.
I know someone will misunderstand me. So... Rapists are garbage. Anyone who commits rape deserves what they get. But broadening the definition of rape so much that every Timothy risks getting charged with it the minute he's alone with a woman, is not a solution, either. (Chads seldom, if ever, get charged with it, but I digress.)
Last edited by MillennialUrbanist; 09-18-2019 at 05:42 AM..
Old news! At least for Sweden. In Sweden, leading a woman on, or inviting her to dinner for the purpose of seducing her into sex, is a crime. It translates from Swedish as "constructive rape". Eek! No wonder Red Pillers hate that country and call it a "feminist wasteland". I actually agree with them on this.
I absolutely will not travel there for as long as I live. Or if I must travel there for business, I'll limit my communication with local women to "hej" (hello) and "adjö" (goodbye). It makes America look male-friendly in comparison, even with feminism in full force.
Sweden's current majority controlling party has made feminism a main priority and focus. I believe there are a many things we can learn from a foreign country's politics but I do not agree with a lot of the feminist driven politics lately that has consumed Sweden. Yes... feminism gone to far is no longer about equality. The other side is that someone posted that they have a high rate of rape.. so it could be a reaction to that statistic. They also have a higher representation of females in the government which is not necessarily a bad thing.
But on the other hand if you are consenting based on fraud and deceit that isn't really consent.
THis goes to the core issue. What about consent based on promises of a future and even engagement and only to find out the individual was living with, engaged or married and this was never disclosed. Also, what if a one party is deceived about the other's contraception use.
I don't see anything wrong with a disclosure form re current relationships, sexually transmittable diseases, exclusivity, use of contraception, etc. so consent is informed consent.
Last edited by Maddie104; 09-18-2019 at 08:10 AM..
I recall an article where a woman sued a man that promised to marry her, only to back out of it at the last minute. This was after she sold her home and was on her way to move into his house.
So at least she can have a civil case with said guy.
Lying to a woman about your motives is a CIVIL matter, not a criminal one. You could try to bring it up in divorce court or family court if alimony or child support is involved, but as others point out, it is almost impossible to prove.
But on the other hand if you are consenting based on fraud and deceit that isn't really consent.
Sort of. Food companies deceive us all the time with ads making it look juicier than it really is, but it hardly seems accurate to say that we were force-fed.
Similarly, a partner may be misleading with regard to motive but that hardly makes it "rape".
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All stamped by a public notary for good measure.
